Hi Straggler
Sorry if I've missed anything in scanning the 2 threads that might answer this question, but how do you reconcile these 2 statements:
Straggler says:
If entities exist which are neither derived from, nor subject to, any laws of nature (e.g. Jesus Christ as conceived by Christians such as Buz and Slev) then these entities are both real and supernatural.
Straggler says:
But if this dude, claiming to be the son of God, raising the dead and whatnot, did actually turn up I think it would be rather churlish of me to continue to rebuke supernaturalists for talking un-evidenced garbage.
What I don't understand is, if there is such a thing as
supernatural that you describe as being "
neither derived from, nor subject to, any laws of nature", how could anything supernatural ever "
turn up" and present itself to you - or to anyone?
If anything could ever connect with something natural, such as yourself, by what other method than a
natural one could it do so, if we are only able to detect or connect with natural things?
If things we call "natural" are ever able to connect with things we call "supernatural", surely we can then re-classify those 2 things under a single term.