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Topic: Poor Satan, so misunderstood.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 207 of 301 (447608)
01-10-2008 3:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 206 by ringo
01-09-2008 11:17 PM
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speaking for myself
RINGO: [Jesus said, "Love thy neighbour as thyself." We can't love ourselves without forgiving ourselves for our sinful, rebellious nature. God has forgiven us. We can't love Him or our neighbours or ourselves until we forgive ourselves too.] Why did god give you a sinful, rebellious nature and not me? That's not fair. I want one too.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 209 of 301 (447615)
01-10-2008 6:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 208 by jaywill
01-10-2008 5:48 AM
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Re: speaking for myself
Huh? What are you suggesting?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 211 of 301 (447624)
01-10-2008 8:27 AM
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Reply to: Message 210 by Phat
01-10-2008 7:53 AM
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Re: Sin by Definition
I know what sin is, Phat. I wanted to know why I should ask others about myself?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Sin by Definition
The dictionary and biblical accounts.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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don't want to know
Your definition is the most sensible I have ever heard. I wonder if people just don't want to know and would rather keep comparing the 'goodies' and the 'baddies'?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 219 of 301 (447757)
01-10-2008 6:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 214 by ringo
01-10-2008 10:09 AM
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Re: speaking for myself
Aren't you mistaking humour for arrogance and it has nothing to do with free will?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 220 of 301 (447760)
01-10-2008 6:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 215 by sidelined
01-10-2008 10:21 AM
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Re: Sin by Definition
I'm not sure what your point is? Do I find the definitons compelling?
In what way? Do I agree with the defintions? Or am I compelled to commit sin? Just cut to the chase and say what's on your mind. I'm intriqued!
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 221 of 301 (447761)
01-10-2008 6:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 216 by nwr
01-10-2008 10:55 AM
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Re: speaking for myself
Thank the lord. Someone else with a WICKED sense of humour. Is that a sin? Is that why the others don't find it funny? I've not stopped laughing. Oh no, is that being arrogant? I'll surely go to hell.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 223 of 301 (447769)
01-10-2008 6:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 222 by nwr
01-10-2008 6:28 PM
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Re: speaking for myself
I just find it surprising that my comment would be taken seriously under any circumstances. I don't actually believe in sin as defined but I do have a rebellious nature and it shows.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Sin by Definition
I don't agree with the definitions and I think neither do you. personally, I define sin as a suppressive ideal.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Re: Sin by Definition
Sidelined, if I had to define sin as an action, I would say that it is in breaking any one of the 10 commandments.
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 229 of 301 (447797)
01-10-2008 8:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 227 by ringo
01-10-2008 7:03 PM
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Re: speaking for myself
Ringo, it was a joke! I wasn't being arrogant. I was surprised by your reaction. Was I not meant to take it personal? Were you just generalizing?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 231 of 301 (447808)
01-10-2008 10:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 230 by ringo
01-10-2008 10:06 PM
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Re: speaking for myself
What was the topic again?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 240 of 301 (448026)
01-11-2008 6:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 232 by ringo
01-10-2008 10:49 PM
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Re: speaking for myself
Well Ringo I have to say I absolutely agree with you. However, it is a terribly difficult concept for most to understand and accept. Do you think this concept could make a difference if the majority accepted it?
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pelican
Member (Idle past 5015 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: 05-27-2007
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Message 242 of 301 (448036)
01-11-2008 7:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 241 by ringo
01-11-2008 6:47 PM
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Re: speaking for myself
Ringo writes: If people stopped passing the buck and took responsibility for their own actions... it might improve their behaviour somewhat. It wouldn't change our natural tendency to screw up, but it might make us more willing/eager to fix our screwups. I believe our potential to change is much greater than that. Once 'satan' is exposed and becomes transparent, the fear will dissolve. Whilst the 'evil' within us is denied, it has power. If it is not judged and accepted as a choice, and not as an evil command, the choices will will change the world. Big dreams but possible. My advice is for everyone to voice all their evil little thoughts and have a good laugh. Edited by AdminPhat, : fixed quote
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