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Author Topic:   AL (Artificial Life) and the people who love it
Taz
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Message 8 of 185 (417552)
08-21-2007 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by molbiogirl
08-21-2007 4:44 PM


Scientists have been observing precells formed on their own inside petri dishes for decades, and yet creationism are still as popular as ever. What makes you think this will be any different?

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Taz
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Message 11 of 185 (417588)
08-23-2007 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by molbiogirl
08-21-2007 9:03 PM


Before the urey miller experiment, they said that organic material in general couldn't form on their own. After the experiment, they pointed out that these organic materials couldn't combine on their own to form any kind of structure that remotely resemble a cell. Precells were discovered to form naturally under certain situation. But you see, they pointed out, these weren't actual "cells" since they don't reproduce.
My prediction:
After cells are proven to be able to form on their own in certain condition, the creationists will point out that single cell organisms aren't really life and that only multicellular life will impress them.
They will continue to move the goal post until it is required for a primate to give birth to a fully grown christian white male before they will budge.

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Taz
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Message 14 of 185 (417596)
08-23-2007 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by riVeRraT
08-23-2007 12:00 PM


Re: You beat me to it!
riverrat writes:
I want to say, that they aren't making life from scratch, like God did. They are only combining existing compounds, and making a biological machine.
But these same compounds have been created countless times before in various apparatuses (apparati?).
The point of the experiment isn't to disprove god the creator, riverrat. The point is to take one step at a time to see if life can come about through natural processes. We've been able to create the organic compounds. We've seen them come together to form primitive bio machines (precells). Now, we're trying to see if a cell is a step away or not.
Even if I didn't believe in God (which I didn't for most of my life) I don't feel as though we have a right to be playing games with life. That does not mean, I am against curing peoples diseases.
I am always amused by people's nature to insert random commas in random places...
Anyway, I'm just curious. Are you against genetic engineering of any kind?
Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Posts: 5069
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Message 15 of 185 (417600)
08-23-2007 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by ringo
08-23-2007 12:14 PM


Re: You beat me to it!
Silly Ringo, scientists will have to create their own protons, electrons, neutrons, etc. until they'd have to create their own energy strings.
Molbigirl, if you're reading this, go back to your original post and press edit. Then replace "AI" with "AL" before I go crazy over it.

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