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Topic: PROOF against evolution
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 265 of 562 (132303)
08-10-2004 8:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 264 by yxifix
08-10-2004 8:19 AM
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How do you know it is a circle? maybe it's a square with a hole in it?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 267 of 562 (132306)
08-10-2004 8:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 266 by yxifix
08-10-2004 8:53 AM
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I do entirely - you are attempting to reach for the god of the gaps coupled with the "the water fits the hole in the ground". Your analogue is weak. At the moment, you may think that you have posed a problem that nobody has ever asked posed here before. It's not, it's the first one that most creationist try. I could just tell you why it's wrong, but where is the schooling in that? The next move is generally the "something couldn't come from nothing". This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-10-2004 08:04 AM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 269 of 562 (132318)
08-10-2004 9:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 268 by yxifix
08-10-2004 9:42 AM
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because you used it in your definition I'm confused - what definition?  I don't remember offering one.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 271 of 562 (132332)
08-10-2004 10:38 AM
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Reply to: Message 270 by yxifix
08-10-2004 10:33 AM
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Because your grammar and spelling is poor and you'd clicked on the button that indicated that it was a reply meant for me. "you" refers to a singular rather than a group unless a qualification is added. In addition the correct spelling is "Evolutionist". This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-10-2004 09:48 AM
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CK
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Message 273 of 562 (132336)
08-10-2004 10:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 272 by yxifix
08-10-2004 10:50 AM
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OK - let's take this to basics - your point with the house example and the circle is that both are that way because they are the product of a conscious and planned design process? Right or wrong?
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CK
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Message 305 of 562 (132703)
08-11-2004 5:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 304 by yxifix
08-11-2004 5:21 AM
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I see what you are getting towards - the universe created itself!
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 307 of 562 (132705)
08-11-2004 5:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 306 by yxifix
08-11-2004 5:38 AM
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Nothing here has created itself But that would mean that nothing could exist! EVER! But I know the probability of the universe existing is 1, so that can't be right. No the universe must have created itself - it's the only logical solution.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 309 of 562 (132710)
08-11-2004 6:14 AM
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Reply to: Message 308 by yxifix
08-11-2004 6:03 AM
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no that makes no sense - if the universe did not create itself, then where did it come from? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-11-2004 05:16 AM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 311 of 562 (132716)
08-11-2004 6:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 310 by yxifix
08-11-2004 6:55 AM
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not at all - how is it not logical that the universe did not provide this information? Was it not likely that the universe created itself You still fail to provide a more logical explaination.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 313 of 562 (132719)
08-11-2004 7:31 AM
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Reply to: Message 312 by yxifix
08-11-2004 7:27 AM
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nice dodge - it's ok just to say "I don't have an answer for you".
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 338 of 562 (132817)
08-11-2004 12:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 337 by yxifix
08-11-2004 12:49 PM
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Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
the universe when it created everything?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 343 of 562 (132824)
08-11-2004 1:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 341 by yxifix
08-11-2004 12:58 PM
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Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
maybe it created itself - or do you think that everything needs a creator?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 347 of 562 (132831)
08-11-2004 1:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 346 by yxifix
08-11-2004 1:12 PM
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Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
yes - the universe like we have established - thanks for clearing that up.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 349 of 562 (132834)
08-11-2004 1:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 348 by yxifix
08-11-2004 1:14 PM
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Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
so everything needs a creator? It's a simple question, why don't you give a simple answer.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 356 of 562 (132920)
08-11-2004 5:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 355 by yxifix
08-11-2004 5:46 PM
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Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
you are not quite there - you are still making too much of a leap - you still haven't explained why the universe could not be this creator.
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