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Percy
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Message 56 of 86 (405129)
06-11-2007 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by WS-JW
06-11-2007 1:10 PM


WS-JW writes:
can anyone tell me if The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins is a good read or not so good? And also Charles Darwin The Origin of Species? or is the Blind Watch Maker the best?
These just represent my own person opinions:
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins: an absolutely horrible book. He's not a theologian or a student of religion or even of psychology. The book is just an extended uninformed rant. The book attempts to make the point that those who believe in God are operating under a delusion, and while there are valid ways to make this point, Dawkins doesn't manage to stumble across many of them.
Origin of Species by Charles Darwin: excellent book, one of the better introductions to evolutionary theory, but it is very detailed and spends much time reviewing voluminous amounts of evidence and is not for everyone.
The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins: this time the author writes about things he knows, and this is an excellent book, but Dawkins is abrasive and brusque when talking about creationism, and I wouldn't recommend this book to you, even though it's full of useful information.
Perhaps someone can recommend something that's balanced and not too long or detailed.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 66 of 86 (405195)
06-11-2007 9:12 PM


General Response about The God Delusion
I didn't want to get into a discussion about Dawkins' book. As I said, it's just my personal opinion. It's not about food evolution, anyway, nor even a cookbook!
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 68 of 86 (405214)
06-11-2007 10:09 PM
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06-11-2007 9:18 PM


Re: General Response about The God Delusion
I don't think a digression into The God Delusion would be appropriate for a thread about the evolution of food, but more importantly, I think you've lost track of how it was introduced into the discussion. WS-JW asked if people thought The God Delusion was "a good read or not so good," and I gave him my opinion and told him why. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean we can hijack this thread into a discussion of the book. If you think it's a book he should read then go ahead and tell him what you liked about it, though to me it seems a sure why to alienate a sincere Christian. Heck, I'm not even a Christian and I was alienated. Even friends and colleagues of Dawkins have lamented the book.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 72 of 86 (405329)
06-12-2007 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by nator
06-12-2007 9:38 AM


Schraf writes:
OTOH, I was also born with a rather severe allergy to bee stings, discovered in my 6th year when I was stung by a honey bee and was rushed to the emergency room after going into anaphylactic shock. I had to get an allergy shot a week for a whole year when I was about 7. That's a lot of shots! I still don't have normal reactions to bee stings to this day, but they are not life-threatening anymore.
I've been envying you your missing wisdom teeth all these years, but now the tally evens up! My sister is allergic to bee stings, I know how bad that can be. I, on the other hand, am fairly insensitive to bee and wasp stings, they're like mosquito bites are to most other people. And my mosquito bites disappear within 15 or 20 minutes. I have no idea if there's a genetic basis to this, but I would suspect so. I don't know if it's related, but acetaminophen (Tylenol) has no effect on me, either, though I don't think I ever went beyond a double-dose.
To top if all off, there's some pheromone that a fair percentage of humans give off that insects use to detect their presence, and lucky me, I'm apparently not one of them! If I'm the only person around then insects have no trouble finding me, but when I'm in a group I'm left pretty much alone.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 76 of 86 (405419)
06-12-2007 8:20 PM
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06-12-2007 7:28 PM


This isn't well known, but it's actually the Fantastic Five. Because of the nature of my work here I naturally have to keep a low profile.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 82 of 86 (406987)
06-23-2007 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Doddy
06-23-2007 8:10 AM


Doddy writes:
Do you also feel that other allergens are not particularly effective, such as ant bites, hayfever or asthma? Do you feel an itch around the insect bite?
I've never had hayfever that I know of, and certainly not asthma. Any insect bites I get don't usually itch unless I get them on the back of a finger, and they seem to last a bit longer in that location, maybe an hour. I do recall the last bee sting I received. It didn't cause itch or pain, but there was a small bump for a couple days. Black fly bites are the worst, they cause a sizable bump and actually itch for a day or two.
I didn't understand the technical portion of your explanation, but I do have a question. Is any of this related to nerve enervation or muscular contraction?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 84 of 86 (407016)
06-23-2007 12:31 PM
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06-23-2007 9:47 AM


Doddy writes:
Do you find aspirin works ok?
I've found that both aspirin and naproxen (Alleve) work great.
--Percy

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