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Author Topic:   Is the bible the word of God or men?
sidelined
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Message 1 of 309 (427872)
10-13-2007 9:33 AM


In another thread simple made the following declarations.
The bible says God is a spirit. That I take as a clue. The angels are spirits, that also I take as a clue. We have spirits, and go there when we die, another clue. Need more??????
That might sound good to you, except that the bible says there really are spirits, a flying throne, and a Christmas star. You have presented no science or bible against these things. Now, before you lecture on reason, remember you got nothin!
I am willing to take the masochistic route here and debate the notion that the bible is the word of god as simple seems to assume.
My question requires that simple clarify for us how he knows that the bible is the word of God.
Of course the bible:accuracy and inerrancy is where this topic should go.
Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

God does not exist until there is proof he does.

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sidelined
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Message 29 of 309 (430919)
10-28-2007 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Elhardt
10-28-2007 12:18 AM


Elkhardt
There seems to be a difference between a letter a MAN writes to the Romans, vs a MAN writing down what somebody said or some history, vs MEN incorporating legends that existed before the bible was written, vs what OTHER WORLDLY BEINGS who appeared to some prophets told them to write down.
Alrighty then, the question I ask is how do you tell that the verses written down by prophets are what an OTHER WORlDLY BEING told them to write?

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
Albert Einstein

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sidelined
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Message 43 of 309 (435572)
11-21-2007 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by SAMBEE
11-20-2007 12:12 PM


Re: SAMBEE
SAMBEE
The first five books of the bible are known as Torah which was written by Moses.This was done during the forty days and forty nights Moses spent in Mt.Sinai,
A question out of curiousity. Since Deuteronomy is the fifth book could you explain how,while Moses was writing these on Mt. Sinai, he was able to write about his death and the mourning that followed it?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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sidelined
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Message 45 of 309 (436119)
11-24-2007 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Force
11-24-2007 1:33 PM


Re: SAMBEE
KISS
Here are the scripture references for the death of Moses and the weeping for him
Deu 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
Deu 34:6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
Deu 34:7 And Moses [was] an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
Deu 34:8 And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping [and] mourning for Moses were ended.

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sidelined
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Message 143 of 309 (438699)
12-05-2007 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Nimrod
12-05-2007 7:22 PM


Re: for one thing.
Nimrod
Now let me show Joseph how it was Muslims who stopped Christians from desecrating the Temple Mount. (Christians killed all Jews and used the Temple Mount as a garbage dump till the Muslims stopped it!)
How about you start a thread devoted to that then?

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