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Legend

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Message 56 of 123 (360693)
11-02-2006 8:01 AM

Reply to: Message 53 by mjfloresta
11-01-2006 4:17 PM

Re: Antichrists

mjfloresta writes:

Less than thirty years after Jesus' death, Nero (the supreme ruler of the empire that ruled over the known world at the time) was threatened enough by the Christians to have them brutally persecuted.

That Christianity had already spread so significantly that the Roman empire was threatened by them, is surely a sign of of Jesus' significant impact on the world around him..

I've studied my fair share of Roman history and I don't recall reading that Nero (or anyone else) felt threatened by the Christians.

On the contrary, historical accounts (Tacitus) claim that Nero used the Christians as a scapegoat for the Great Fire or Rome, as the populace were blaming him for it. If anything, the Romans were treating the Christians with either ridicule or pity (Annals by Tacitus), far from feeling threatened by them.

Can you support your claim that the Roman empire was threatened by the Christians at that time ?

Edited by Legend, : spelling

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Message 61 of 123 (360754)
11-02-2006 10:34 AM

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11-02-2006 9:36 AM

Re: Antichrists

Phat writes:

In a similar vein, the Nazis felt threatened by the Jewish people, yet also used them as scapegoats.

I believe there are plenty of recorded Hitler speeches where he says that the Aryan nation is threatened by the Jews. So this is a true statement.

Are there any recorded Nero speeches where he says that the Roman Empire is threatened by the Christians ?

Phat writes:

There were many people in the Roman Empire worshipping other gods...why the Christians were picked on so much is curious. Perhaps they were a threat.

Perhaps. We can speculate on possibilities or we can look at history. As far as I know, there are no historical accounts that portray Christianity as a threat to the Roman Empire at that time

Do you know of any ?

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Legend

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Message 69 of 123 (360828)
11-02-2006 1:24 PM

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11-02-2006 9:47 AM

Re: Antichrists

err...I think you pressed the wrong 'reply' button

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