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Author Topic:   Does the bible condemn homosexuality?
Dan Carroll
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Message 2 of 311 (56472)
09-19-2003 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Rei
09-18-2003 7:54 PM


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Nor do they "worship their sexual lusts" any more than anyone else in their age/gender group, from my experience.
I defy any homosexual (Or heterosexual, for that matter) to claim they worship their sexual lusts more than I do mine.
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Are you so riled about homosexuality that you forgot that women count, too?
When dumbasses are railing about homosexuality, they're thinking about men only. It's that simple. My own guess is that it boils down to the silly old assumption that women don't want to have sex, so therefore lesbianism isn't something they need to fight.
There's a hysterical story about the Victorian 'decency' law that wound up nailing Oscar Wilde. It's specifically phrased to refer to guy-on-guy action only. One of the chumps who passed the law suggested that lesbianism be included too, and the response was that women don't know about the possibility of lesbianism, so let's not go putting ideas in their pretty little heads.
Sigh.
No, there's no point to this story. Just taking a moment out for "The Great Idiots of History."

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Dan Carroll
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Message 21 of 311 (56935)
09-22-2003 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Brad McFall
09-21-2003 11:43 PM


Re: Re
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In the end the one host refused to talk and the other simply said I made the listener's "head" spin.
We love you, Brad.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 29 of 311 (57102)
09-23-2003 2:29 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Joralex
09-22-2003 11:02 PM


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Of course, if you don't believe in God then anything goes (and it usually does).
This is precisely why, as an atheist, I make sure to kill at least three orphans every day, and then have sex with the open wounds I made on their bodies.
After all, without God, how could I possibly have a moral code of any kind?
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Without God, homosexual behavior cannot be ethically condemned
Honestly, I strongly encourage you to spread this idea as far and wide as possible, because it's dead-on true.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 45 of 311 (57761)
09-25-2003 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Joralex
09-25-2003 11:49 AM


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I don't know if you have a son (or any children for that matter) but since you don't seem to mind homosexuals then why don't you try the following : if/when you have a son, leave him unsupervised in the company of a clan of homosexual men for a few weeks and tell me if you are able to sleep completely at ease during that time.
This is a nice littly mainstay of bigotry. "Deep down, you know you feel the same way."
Last time I heard a statement like this, it was from a racist who said to me, "you know damn well you'd cross the street right now if you saw a black guy coming."
Whatever gets you through the day, Joralex.
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For that matter, I don't believe that you personally would feel at ease around homosexuals (unless you are one yourself) since there's this little thing called AIDS going around.
I would think he would feel more uncomfortable around homosexual men who had AIDS if he was homosexual, and having sex with them. Then he'd be in a far more likely position to receive AIDS from them. You don't catch it from a toilet seat, you know.
Regardless, do homosexual women not count? They have a far lower risk of AIDS than heterosexuals of either gender.
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You know, AIDS - that troublesome thing that killed the movie star Rock Hudson because of his homosexual lifestyle.
Would this be the same disease that nailed basketball star Magic Johnson because of his heterosexual lifestyle?
Anyone who thinks eliminating homosexuality would get rid of AIDS is deluding themselves.
[This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 09-25-2003]

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Dan Carroll
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Message 49 of 311 (57775)
09-25-2003 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Joralex
09-25-2003 12:58 PM


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You shouldn't try to alter/cover up history so as to justify what is unacceptable to God.
He didn't alter anything. He quite clearly stated that AIDS first emerged in homosexual circles. But is the current prevelance of AIDS in the heterosexual community evidence that heterosexuality is now unacceptable to God? Is the lower risk of AIDS among lesbians (which has been the case all along) evidence that lesbians are God's favorite sexual group?
If not, then why would AIDS have any relevance at all to God's stance on male homosexuality?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 52 of 311 (57780)
09-25-2003 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Joralex
09-25-2003 1:11 PM


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Way to go, Dan - if you can't beat 'em, villify them!
So now I'm compared to a "racist" - a "bigot". I'll respond accordingly as before : if believing this gives you a better night's sleep then go for it, Dan.
Yes, you are compared to him, since your statements were strikingly similar. If you don't like the comparison, that's tough.
To answer the question, however, I wouldn't leave a small child with anyone I didn't know. What difference would it make whether they were homosexual or not? If I know and trust them, great, if not, forget it.
What does homosexuality have to do with it, apart from your own prejudices?
If there's no reason apart from those prejudices that homosexuality would be a consideration, then how exactly am I villifying you?
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Wrong is wrong and this has nothing to do with liking it or not. A black person, OTOH, is not "wrong" - you're comparing apples with battleships.
I agree with you that a black person is not "wrong." This person did not.
You feel that homosexuality is "wrong," much in the same way this fellow felt about black people.
Do the math, Joralex. I'm sorry if you don't like the comparison, but it's perfectly valid.
If there's a crucial point I'm missing that makes the two wildly different, please, feel free to point it out.
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Read my reply to Mr. Jack - it applies to you also and I don't want to repeat myself even further.
I've read it. You've said nothing about lesbianism, or about why a heterosexual should be more nervous around AIDS-infected homosexuals than a homosexual would. Would you care to answer the questions?
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DITTO! How do you think AIDS spread into the heterosexual community, keemosabee?
So it started in one place and spread from there. Most things in the world do. What's your point?
[This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 09-25-2003]

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Dan Carroll
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Message 56 of 311 (57798)
09-25-2003 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Silent H
09-25-2003 2:49 PM


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a "clan" (clan???)
I just assumed he was referring to the notorious ninja homosexuals of feudal Japan.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 59 of 311 (57804)
09-25-2003 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Joralex
09-25-2003 3:45 PM


So are you saying prevelance of AIDS has nothing to do with God's love (or lack thereof?)
This isn't a rhetorical question, by the way.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 63 of 311 (57809)
09-25-2003 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Rei
09-25-2003 4:40 PM


You are my hero.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 65 of 311 (57832)
09-25-2003 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Silent H
09-25-2003 6:09 PM


I'm there. Anyone who can find pictures of gay ninja is tops in my book.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 74 of 311 (58061)
09-26-2003 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Silent H
09-26-2003 3:17 PM


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Natural sex, unnatural sex, and supernatural sex.

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Dan Carroll
Inactive Member


Message 94 of 311 (58342)
09-28-2003 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by balyons
09-28-2003 4:33 PM


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That was one of the most obscene comments I have ever read and it is unbelievable that anyone could stoop to such a level for any reason whatsoever.
You should have seen the first draft. It involved puppies.
Regardless, kind of puts that whole "homosexuality is abominable" thing in perspective, huh?

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