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Author Topic:   If some parts of the Bible can't be trusted how can any of it?
crashfrog
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Message 69 of 189 (112733)
06-04-2004 4:54 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by One_Charred_Wing
06-04-2004 3:05 AM


that's a good possibility tha by 'in His image' the Bible means something other than physical appearance.
Is that even in doubt? I'm not exactly up on the latest thought in Biblical exegesis, but even when I was a pup in Catholic school, it was obvious that "in His image" didn't mean that God was about 6' and possessed of a navel and genitalia.
I don't understand how a person of any intelligence could read that and come to the conclusion that the Genesis writer meant that God is the exact shape and form of a person. I mean, on one hand you have a brilliantly poetic way of describing how the human faculty for introspection and insight is like Gods, and on the other, you have a really stupid insistance that God has a body like a person, down to what's under the fig leaf.
I enjoy agreeing with you, partly because I know my superiors would be pissed off like a redneck in a distance whizzing contest if they knew I was on good terms with somebody like you even just on an internet forum.
That's a hardly Christlike position for them to take, don't you think? If they get all up in your face, remind them that Jesus spent more time with prostitutes and tax collectors than he did with the righteous. Christ ministered by getting to know people, by getting into their lives and seeing from their perspective. Surely there can't be anything wrong with following suit?

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crashfrog
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Message 82 of 189 (120231)
06-30-2004 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Nasa
06-29-2004 11:35 PM


If some parts of evolution theory can not be trusted, how can any of it.....................?
None of the theory is supposed to be trusted.
On the other hand, all of the theory is supported by evidence.

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crashfrog
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Message 99 of 189 (136054)
08-22-2004 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by ROTB
08-21-2004 10:07 PM


Re: The Bible is the Word of God
The reason the Bible is the Word of God
Which Bible is the Word of God?
is because it says what happens thousands of years before it happens.
How do you know? Do you have a Bible from way back then?

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crashfrog
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Message 106 of 189 (136116)
08-22-2004 1:41 PM
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08-22-2004 3:52 AM


Re: The Bible is the Word of God
The "textus receptus" a.k.a. the received majority Greek New Testament text, along with the translation of the Hebrew to Greek executed circa 250 BC called the Septuagint, are the Word of God.
How can they be the Word of God if they're translations?
What were they before they were translated?
So to answer your question of "which bible", the answer is, the Christian Bible.
But which one?

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crashfrog
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Message 110 of 189 (136122)
08-22-2004 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by ROTB
08-22-2004 2:00 PM


Re: The Bible is the Word of God
and when they killed Jesus Christ.
I thought that was supposed to happen, though. How can that be a bad thing? It's the source of all our salvation or whatever, isn't it?
How can you fault Israel for doing what it took to guarantee salvation for all persons forever?

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crashfrog
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Message 148 of 189 (136306)
08-23-2004 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by ROTB
08-22-2004 11:43 PM


Re: On Prophesy.
God promised to scatter the Jews into the world if they did not repent, and then he did it. He also brought them back (1948AD) exactly when he said He would.
How does it make sense for this prophecy to be based on a calendar rooted in the false assumption that Jesus was born in 1 AD?
By definition this is a prophecy that can only be understood after the fact, or at the very earliest, after the establishment of the Gregorian calender.
606BC + 70 years (Jeremiah 25) + (360 years left x 7) = 1948 AD
Did you do this math before you posted it? The result of your equation is 1985, not 1948. (Remember too that you have to add one year - there's no Year 0. Fencepost error, you see.)

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crashfrog
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Message 165 of 189 (136525)
08-24-2004 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by ROTB
08-24-2004 4:48 AM


I suspect you misunderstood.
No, you misunderstood my objection.
All your dates are based on the Gregorian calendar, which erroneously dates Jesus's birth at 1 AD. How can we be expected to believe that God's prophecy would be based on a calendar rooted in falsehood?
You're getting a date of 1948, but nobody who didn't know Israel was founded in 1948 would have gotten this date.
According to the Bible, years are 360 days
Maybe, but that's not how long a year is. A Year is 365.24 days. Why would God base his prophecy on an erroneous year length?
On your calculator:
That works out better, but why did you post an erroneous equation in the first place?

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