The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood

Rrhain,Can you please explain to me in a simple child's language how this "cyladic art helps disprove the flood theory"? I don't see how this disproves it in anyway. Rather, I see assumptions on your part that the flood has been placed "right smack during the middle of Third Cyclades".You see, us creationists believe THEIR WRONG. We don't believe they date that far back. So instead, you're going to have to first prove to us that they DO DATE back that far.I also want to see WHY you think whatever results you're reading is "PROOF". You might just find out that you've been had!We have the remains of Noah's Ark in Dogaboyazit Turkeys. The Government of Turkey has declared Noah's Ark to be found. We have the actual Petrified Wood with no growth rings (even evolutionists agree there was (note: "WAS") wood with no growth rings). We have all the radar scan test results from many different archaeologists on the site...and we are now convinced without a shadow of doubt that we have found the Biblical Noah's Ark. NOT a "clay pusshup". The Vice President of Geocentric Labs, Joe Rosetta HIMSELF stated, "this is a man made object, whatever it is".It's the exact dimensions of the biblical Noah's Ark. 515 Feet long = 300 Royal Egyptian Cubits (20.6 inches).The location even matches ALL the ancient civilization clues of the Ark's location--even using high-in-depth scientific seafaring calculations. I have all the data! 340+ pages!We have over 200 accounts of a global flood from ancient civilizations ALL around the globe. Even the Toltecs have legends past down to them of a global flood. It's all over!We have IMMENSE worldwide evidence of a global flood!I just wonder how much research you've really put into this.The Ark has been found! We now KNOW for certain that we found the Ark! It's not a question anymore!

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~Lysimachus

Rrhain, if you are so positive you've done more research than me in this area, I'd like to challenge you in an Ark debate. I am 100% certain we have Noah's Ark, and there is no way you are going to get around it. Either you accept that we found Noah's Ark, or you are going to be left in the dark buddy.I want you to scientifically prove to me that that boat shaped object is not Noah's Ark. If you cannot do this, then we have Noah's Ark. If we have Noah's Ark, guess what my friend? Your little Cyclades figures are the most mennial little things you could ever use as an argument. It's not, "if we have a Cyclades head, then we have a problem with the Flood", it's if we have an Ark, then we have a problem of how we are interpreting these so called physics for dating them".I guarantee you Rrhain, we found the Ark, and if you want so badly for their to not be a God and the flood, you're going to have to disprove our Ark. You've been lied to about that Ark. It's an ungodly world trying to disprove creation.So I'm waiting for your first questions/reasons why you think we have not found the Ark. Give a shot at it

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~Lysimachus

Alright, the Ark is not on topic. But I want a new thread created. I will be making one soon, so I will stop from this point forth.Willowtree, I'll remember what you said. I won't divert him from you to me until you're satisfied enough for him to be "off hook".P.S. Crackpot my foot. If there is any crackpot, it's not Ron, but the false allegations made against Ron. Turkey's highest archaeologists have physically examined the site for themselves and declared it that it can be non-other than Noah's Ark--meeting with the Biblical historical document. It can be no other boat, as there were no other boats that large in ancient times. Ron simply happened to be the "initiater" and is considered the discoverer of Noah's Ark, as Turkey was so gracious to consider him the official discoverer. But just because someone might have some vendetta against Ron and might think he's wrong in other areas, does that mean he's wrong about Noah's Ark? NOT when independent sources verify the site! People complain that not enough independent sources verified the chariot wheels found at the bottom of the Red Sea. We have had some, but more verification would be appreciated. But with Noah's Ark, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY! We have a TON of independent verification from high places.

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~Lysimachus

Willowtree,I will make a Noah's Ark/Flood thread as soon as possible. First, I'm in the process of typing up a lot of information that has not been put on the web that is desperately needed.And about the blood on the Ark...ahhemm...well...let me tell you this Willowtree, that is a touchy subject, and that is why I'm more hesitant to embark upon that subject. Remember, of all the discoveries claimed by W.A.R, the Ark of the Covenant is the ONLY "wait and see" discovery. Just be assured that the Israeli government is well aware of all this data, and because the Ark of the Covenant sits on Palistinian soil, the Israeli government has told W.A.R. to keep the information regarding it's existance as confidential as possible. W.A.R. must heed the warnings of the Israeli government, as publically revealing it's presence (and the blood) could result in Jihad, a Holy War of Islam. I have plenty of offical data on this, and I will reveal it due season, but not for now I will stick with the other discoveries. Remember, the hatred between the Israeli's and the Palistinians is severe...and this is why the identity of the laboratory testers of the blood has remained confidential. One British Man who lost all patience attempted to "tell the world" of the discovery of the Ark of the Covenant. Ron Wyatt and the team told him he COULD NOT do that, as W.A.R. had given the Israeli government their word. Things were bad enough already. In 1990, the Israeli authorites decided to test public reaction to a possible discovery announcement of the Ark of the Covenant and to a possible building of a new Temple. The result was a bloody clash and many deaths. The morning of Monday October 8, 1990 will survive in history as the "Temple Mount massacre". 11 Israeli worshipppers, and eight policement were injured, while 21 Arabs were shot dead and 125 seriously injured in a clash between Zionists and Arab Moslems. Between Jewish extremists and nervous Arabs, the Ark of the Covenant was and is political dynamite. The man went ahead anyway and decided to call a conference meeting about telling the world--the result? When the journalists arrived for the press conference, the man was found lying in the alley in a pool of blood. There was a bullet hole in teh back of his head. He had been shot by a single sniper's bullet. The lane was swarming with mounted police, soldiers and medical units."Arab extremists," said the newspaper. No further explanation was given. That was back in April 27, 1986. The situation has not changed, and W.A.R continues to respect the government's wishes not to divulge certain details.A total of 16 people have died attempting to go in and remove the Ark of the Covenant. All 16 were declared dead from a stroke. ALL! The 6 Israeli's dressed in Levitical robes were sent in by the Israeli government to move the Ark of the Covenant (through the main Zedekiah's Cave entrance) over to Israeli soil--should the Palistinians ever find out it was on "their side". The Ark of the Covenant has been known in ancient times to give "victories in battle" to those who have it, so therefore even the Palistinians want it. A Rabbi in Jerusalem has even counseled W.A.R. to leave the Ark of the Covenant where it is for now, "as the time is not ripe". The 6 men that entered the tunnel system never came back out, so the government called Wyatt to go in there and find out what happened to them. Ron brought each body out, and it was circulated in Israeli Newspapers that "these 6 Israeli men died trying to retrieve a national artifact". Each of the dead men had their eyes rolled back into their heads. Nothing physical killed them. All 16 died of, well, should I say it? "Supernatural causes"? Only Ron Wyatt was appointed by God for this work, and this is why Ron had God' protecting hand. Ron Wyatt said that he had to repent of every known and unknown sin before each time he enterred the chamber.The Government since then has asked W.A.R. to seal off the entrance. Bob Murrel built a steel door and sealed off the original tunnel--The door has been camouflaged with rocks and dirt. If you only knew what's really going on behind all of this Remember, the Jews connect the revealing of the Ark of the Covenant with the coming of the Messiah! Hence it is unthinkable to even consider fully excavating it until the "Messiah" comes!Would you like to know more Willowtree?(of course, people like Charles will forever be locked in their den of not knowing what's really going on out there...so sad )This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-22-2004 12:51 PM

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~Lysimachus

Crashfrog...please, spare not only yourself, but me. I really feel sorry for you, as you are so ignorant as to what is really going on.Go read more of my above post, as I added more...This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-22-2004 12:46 PM

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~Lysimachus

You want evidence for the Ark of the Covenant? or Noah's Ark?Like I said, I will not divulge on the AofC now. Perhaps in the future. The above was just a taste.For now and a while, it's Noah's Ark and the flood.

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~Lysimachus

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I wonder where it will come from this time? Theonion.com? National Lampoon? Fox News? Is there any site you won't take seriously if it tells you what you want to hear?

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Matter of fact, it won't come from any website. Moreso, a compilation of documents.

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~Lysimachus

Zephyr, what are you saying "wow" to?