The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood

I think this makes problems form many people ... particularly for artists, as the term "modern art" is not enough to differentiate it from this stuff

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I just looked at that and said "hmmm, nothing new under the sun since?"heh.and I like the statue too. therefore it has to be modern (hehe)

see -- that is proof the society now is as corrupt as it was before the flood!

The fact that all such myths have many very different and divergent accounts of those events proves that they are relating to different events.Agricultural societies began on floodplains, so one would expect every agricultural society to have a flood myth.What are some disparities? Many myths have creation starting with a flood and the earth rising out of it. You have an element of this in genesis too, with the seperation of water bit. None of these type myths have large boats with thousands of animals and the like, except those in the same general area of the middle east.The flood story that I like the best as a refutation of this argument is the Norse one (see The Norse Creation Myth): I'm sure everyone will see the surprising similarities that would show a common source experience for this and the biblical flood The commonality of a flod story and the uncommonality of what the flood stories actually say is evidence that they are NOT the same event, unless they all happened at the same time AND each one is a different experience of survival and NOT ONE is the unique story.Enjoy.{added by edit}This argument is an example of the fallacy of exclusion (see Forbidden): This message has been edited by RAZD, 09-06-2004 01:33 AM

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see http://EvC Forum: The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood -->EvC Forum: The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood

this is off the topic.however the issue of getting the animals to the ark is not the problem -- there could have been just one continent before and a strict reading of genesis does say that god brought the animals to noah to load.the problem is getting them from the ark to where they currently live, and specifically the only places they live.There are other topics that discuss this and you whould search them out to read and comment on.enjoy.

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As to my avatar there is a solution you can use. If you use Int.Explorer you will need to turn off active-X, if you use netscape they have a more elegant solution -- you can set all animations to cycle once. There is also some "freeware" available now that will disable active-X routines and the like without the problems that Int.Exp. makes for itself.In netscape, go to {edit button} pick {preferences ... } from the menu and then select {privacy & security} in the left window to expand it, then select {images} under it and at the bottom you can select between the 3 options for animations: the middle one is cycle once.

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What I asserted was that all those different facts mean that they must have been based on different (distant) past experiences - a flood in South America gives a mesopotamian myth a basis different from the others.And I also did not say that there was no basis for a genesis flood, just that it couldn't have been the same basis because of the differences, and that pretty well rules out the possibility that it was world wide. Follow the logic: if it was world wide and all the descriptions are true then there were lots of survivors other than those in a large wooden boat filled with ill-tempered animals - and that is just as much a problem for the biblical scenario as the lack of a world-wide flood.Every major worldwide civilization started with agriculture, which was necessarily built on the fertile flood plains. What is the probability that they would all experience a flood sooner or later? 100%. That's what floodplains do: flood. Regularly. Faulty logic again: There is no need for any one of them to be factually true even though there is a high probability that there was a different actual event that formed the basis of each myth. And if I have to choose, I would choose the Norse flood of blood (they have no other flood ...). Prove me wrong.There is also plentiful evidence of flooding in the geological record, but not of a single time when all places were flooded at once. This would also support a "many different flood" basis for all the myths.By excluding the evidence in your mind that these are different floods you are making the logical fallacy mentioned.Enjoy.

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