Is Jesus of 'Cursed Lineage'

HI,You have proof that Jesus was born in Bethlehem?You have proof that Mary's genealogy is in the New Testament?Brian.

I have no idea, how many do you think were born that night? Do you have any idea when this night would have been? It wasn’t, how do you know that? Oh Bethlehem was bigger than Judea, I didn’t know that. Yes Monty Python’s Life of Brian is a very accurate portrayal of the Gospel narratives and should be used by all Divinity Faculties. Another what, another person whose mum was a virgin, another person whose parents spoke to angel’s on a regular basis? Jesus wasn’t born of Davidic lineage, the Gospels are quite clear about this. Which laws in particular would these be? I agree here, Christians have mutilated the Old Testament.Brian.

Hi, But, Joseph wasn't Jesus' father, you have already acknowledged this. So, Jesus is not the son of Joseph. The bloodline never passes though the mother, thus Mary's genealogy is worthless. However, I don't think that Mary's genealogy is actually in the Bible. But, hereditary titles and anything else, never passes through the mother, thus Jesus has no connection to David and is thus not the messiah.BTW, wasn't Mary a Levite?Brian.

Hi Jar,Deuteronomy 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD Jesus must have friends in high places Brian.

Hi Tom,The messiah was to be from the BLOODLINE of David, as you have discovered Jesus does not have any Davidic blood, thus he could not have been the messiah.2 Samuel 7:12-13And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
The messiah is to be of direct descent from David, specifically though Solomon, which further negates Mary's 'genealogy'.The curse itself does not really make any difference as Jesus was not of Davidic blood.Conclusion, Jesus simply cannot be the messiah.Brian.

But Jesus was a bastard none the less wasn't he?Bastards are not unique to the Old testament.BTW, I was pulling Jar's wee leg Brian

Hi Tom,2 Samuel 7:13He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. God has promised David to set up his seed after David is dead specifically through the son who built a house for God's name, namely the Solomonic Temple.The bloodline passes through Solomon's line as he built the Lord's house, Nathan is not included here.Also, the purity of genes (whatever that is) makes no difference to whether someone was married or not. He was given it to deliver to David.Brian.

Hi Tom, A source that was written about 400 years AFTER the Gospels is hardly convincing.This is just a 5th century attempt to explain away a problem. It is hardly evidence.This is not really that much different to citing answersingenesis as evidence that Mary was heli's daughter.I would be more impressed if Jesus' contemporaries were aware that Mary was the daughter of Heli.Brian.

Hi A, It matters to a couple of billion people!But, we will never know who Jesus' daddy was.The genealogies in Luke and Matt are artificial just like the majority of the Old Testament ones.Brian.

Hi Perhaps Paul knew something that we don't, namely that Jesus was not of Davidic descent?After all, Paul's writings are older than the Gospels.Brian.

Hi Purple, I believe that this is viewed as 'God with us' in purpose rather than God with us in the flesh.God was with Ahaz in his quest to defend Judah and not literally in his company.Immanuel can be found in Isaiah 8, as the son of the prophetess, whom many commentators believe is the 'virgin' referred to in chapter 7.Brian.

HI Phat,The jews believe in a flesh and blood messiah and that he will free Israel from her enemies.The Immanuel in 7:14 is not a messiah, the passage is not about a messiah at all. It is about the birth of a boy as a sign that the alliance against Ahaz will fail.Cheers.Brian.This message has been edited by Brian, 01-07-2005 11:58 AM

Your programs must run as smooth as silk dude.Brian.

Hi A, Last I heard there is likely to be three authors of the book of Isaiah, with chapters 40-55 written by Deutero-Isaiah , and chapters 56-66 by Trito-Isaiah.Brian.

Hi, and he went and lived in a town called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets: He will be called a Nazarene".Which prophets (plural) said that "He will be called a Nazarene"?Cheers.Brian.