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Debate on 5 Non-Biblical arguments for the existence of God

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Message 36 of 49 (153891)
10-28-2004 9:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 5 by Zhimbo
09-29-2004 11:21 PM

Re: Arguments
I find that one ineresting also.
I always used to ask myself, who created God? Where did he come from?
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But for some strange reason we almost feel like we don't have the right to even ask the question.
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When you start to ponder on it, your head feels like its going to explode. I just shake my head and say it had to have come from somewhere. What was it? It was just always there, the Universe, continually expanding and collapsing? What purpose does it serve?
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What's outside the big bubble right before it reverses direction and collapses, if it even collapses.
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Great, I got a headache now.
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Message 37 of 49 (153892)
10-28-2004 9:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 34 by happy_atheist
10-20-2004 9:14 PM

Cause you don't know why we are here.
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10-29-2004 10:19 AM 		Reply to: Message 38 by contracycle
10-29-2004 8:11 AM

Re: Arguments
God is a lie that thieves use to justify their theft.
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Woa!!!
Care to re-think that statement, because you are going to have to prove it now.
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Well, M-theory would suggest the universe is a zone of interaction between two 'membranes' in a kind of extra-universal space.
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Brilliant!
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That at least is a constructive and purposeful answer, even if it is wrong. Merely resorting to "its hard and confising" is not. Furthermore, your sense that you do not have the "right" to ask this question demonstrates only the fact that religion tries to suppress thought.
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No it demostrates that I know my place in life and the Universe, and just how small I am compared to it. I still have asked the question.
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Message 42 of 49 (154120)
10-29-2004 11:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 40 by contracycle
10-29-2004 10:50 AM

Re: Arguments
BOING!!!
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You are the word twister extreme.
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riverrat writes:
I know my place in life and the Universe, and just how small I am compared to it.
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You write:
you insist on being the centre of attention of some super-dimensional entity. In fact, you think the whole universe was created just for you, and other humans.
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How'd you get that from what I wrote?
I think I know, but lets hear your side.
I think what I stated is pretty clear, unless you are calling me a liar. If so, then I have nothing more to say to you, but I will pray for you.
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10-29-2004 11:36 AM 		Reply to: Message 41 by ramoss
10-29-2004 11:10 AM

Re: Arguments
Well, that doesn't make a God a liar now does it?
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BTW, I am happy that you reconize that some or most of these TV dudes are full of it.
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10-29-2004 12:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by contracycle
10-29-2004 11:43 AM

Re: Arguments
I guess you want to stop me from praying, how cool.
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11-01-2004 1:13 AM 		Reply to: Message 47 by ramoss
10-31-2004 9:39 PM

Re: Arguments
Yes you are absolutly correct. To me these people are the scum of the earth. They ruin it for everyone.
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You don't have to give your money to a church to tithe. You can just give it to the needy, in the name of God, and then recieve his blessings. You are just ackwoledging that money is from him, and you give back the first ten percent to prove this ackowledgment.
I have started it this year, and so far, its been a great year money wise, and blessing wise. I am very careful where it does go.
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If you do give money to someone who is stealing it for himself, you will still recieve the blessings, because you have really given it to God, he sees that. True faith in God means that you will recieve those blessings, and you will not be angry at the person who stole them. It doesn't matter how rich that guy is, you have God's blessing, he probably doesn't.
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*edit* This is a test of the Lord, it says so in the bible.
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