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Author Topic:   A question for believers - why the Bible?
Hangdawg13
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Message 52 of 79 (172549)
12-31-2004 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Morte
12-20-2004 6:04 PM


Why do you, personally, believe that the Bible is divinely inspired?
When you place your hand in the fire you exclaim, "It's hot!!!"
Likewise, when I read about the teachings, life, and death of Christ my heart is set on fire and I must exclaim, "I believe!!!"
Also, the Bible's theology, creation, explanation of life make the most sense to me.
I must marvel at how the prophecies and teachings of the OT pointed towards Christ.

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Hangdawg13
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Message 63 of 79 (173022)
01-02-2005 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Brian
01-02-2005 2:50 AM


Maybe you could pick a prophecy or two and demonstrate for me that it has to be an OT prophecy fulfilled by Jesus?
No, we cannot demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus fulfilled any prophecy. But there are many pointers.
E.g. the tabernacle and the sacrificial system. Before Christ came the Jewish people were clearly expecting a Messiah. They even agreed on many details about his coming: born of a virgin in Bethelehem of the line of David, etc. and so forth. Daniel's prophecy of the interruption at the 69th week occured when Jesus came riding in on the donkey. There is even prophecy of his suffering and death for the forgiveness of sins in Isaiah.
Taken on the whole, the message is quite powerful, though weak enough to allow rationalization for those who wish to deny it.

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Hangdawg13
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From: Texas
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Message 65 of 79 (173058)
01-02-2005 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Brian
01-02-2005 1:08 PM


I'm not going to debate biblical prophecy again. I'm not an OT scholar and I'm not sure that you are (even though you speak with all the authority of a great pharisee). You clearly will accept ANY doctrine or interpretation of a passage that is diverted from Christ and in the end you will always point out that we cannot even prove Christ was a real person. It is really fruitless to argue with this kind of skepticism.

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Hangdawg13
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From: Texas
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Message 70 of 79 (173195)
01-02-2005 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Brian
01-02-2005 2:04 PM


Roughly translated this means that you cannot refute the points I made.
No translation is necessary. I meant what I said, it is pointless to debate this with you.
This is to be expected of course, no point in having an open mind is there HD?
I have an open mind. In the past few months as a result of my debating here I have rejected everything I was ever taught about Christianity and doubted the existence of God, but after examining all my doubts and the scriptures again, my faith has returned and I am rationally satisfied with my position.

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