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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Your tactic is called "making claims that you don't know are true, then refusing to admit it when you are proven wrong".
quote: Tell me, what do you call an ideology, such as yours, that calls for the quick and cheap extermination of millions of people? Why don't you call it "The Final Solution-Reprise"? Tell me, do you have a small moustache?
quote: Oh, I think the way you reacted to my quite strong refutation of your claims is very germane to the discussion. See, I just confirmed my prediction that you will, without fail, refuse to admit when you are completely wrong about something, even when you are shown data, and even when it isn't "germane to the subject." This strongly suggest to me that you are completely unable to have a grown-up, rational discussion about anything. You have shown yourself willing to state things as fact that you actually do not know to be fact, and then avoid correcting yourself when shown that you are wrong. This makes me unable to trust anything you say. ...that, and your advocacy of mass murder. Also, please explain to m how this "Final Solution" of yours demonstrates CHRISTLIKE BEHAVIOR. Please retract or correct your false claim. I will cut n paste my last message below:
When are you emigrating to Nigeria? quote: There is no perfection in this world. Fortunately for us, our founders created the best economic & political system going. It ain't perfect, but it is far superior to all the rest. I pointed out that there are many ways in which the US is not, in fact, far superior to all the rest. I even left one out; we no longer have the constitutional right to habeus corpus. The SCOTUS just ruled that it is not unconstitutional to hold an American citizen without trial and without representation for as long as the government wants to hold them. Sounds like a slide into facism to me. Please retract or correct your false claim the the US's political and economic system is "far superior to all the rest". PS If I were to emigrate anywhere, I would want to move to Scandinavia. They have the best overall standard of living in the world for their citizens. Pay particular attention to the bolded part regarding the number of people in poverty in Norway compared to the US: http://www.scandinavica.com/culture/society/UNreport.htm
In Norway, 99 percent of the population can read and write, there are 413 doctors per 100,000 citizens, the average life expectancy is 78.4 years, and the Norwegians are even wealthier than ever before. The famous Nordic social welfare state remains efficient and provides the Norwegians with a first class health, education and benefits system, which is financed through their taxes. Norway has also topped the lists for being among the most generous countries in the world in terms of foreign aid donations on a per capita basis, and for their green environmentally friendly policies. The average salary in Norway is $45,000 but the Nordic countries are above all known for being an egalitarian society; of the seventeen richest countries in the world, Sweden ranks first as having the fewest people living in poverty and the fewest illiterate people, while other rich countries such us the United States have the the most, showing that stark inequality persists even in middle or high-income countries. Education is one of the pillars of the Nordic society. Illiteracy is practically non existent from Iceland to Finland, and the free national education systems breed some of the most skilled workforce in the world. Moreover, when it comes to equality between women and men, all the five Nordic countries top the index and score again the highest; Iceland takes the lead in terms of emancipation, followed by Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland on the fifth position. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 08-01-2004 07:59 AM
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
New Zealand is owned by its original peoples?
No need to pay attention to what is said here. Sine you are steeped in opinion and bias, you are not meant to get it and it's better that you don't. Few people could handle the radical personal makeover necessary.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
New Zealand is owned by its original peoples?
No need to pay attention to what is said here. Since you are steeped in opinion and bias, you are not meant to get it and it's better that you don't. Few people could handle the radical personal makeover necessary.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No, you're all the same.
quote: But it SAYS THAT IN THE BIBLE! We have to get rid of ALL of you before you take over the entire US government and everyone is forced to be Christian. Isn't that what the Christians want? An America where every single person is a Christian? They already have a stranglehold on the Republican Party. They already restrict what is taught in science classrooms. they already want to make everyone in public schools pray to their god, and they already bomb and kill people who they don't agree with. You people have made it clear that you will stop at nothing before everyone in the US is Christian. Actually, Christians are bent upon WORLD DOMINATION. Right after 9/11, Ann Coulter publically advocated invading all the Muslim countries and forcing everyone to convert to Christianity at the point of a gun. She is taken completely seriously by Fox News, even though she is obviously a Christian bent upon world domination. That means that Fox News is a tool of the Christians and will help when it comes time for the US government takeover.
quote: Then why are there thousands and thousands of Christian Missionaries all over the world? Missionaries have come to my door dozens of times over the years. That's a secret army carrying out recon missions to scope out who they will take out when they overthrow the government and force everyone to be Christians. I've read "The Handmaids Tale". I know what you people are capable of, and I know what you want.
quote: They all do, apparently, if you ask them.
quote: All I know is that you people want to take over our country and turn everyone into Christians. I've watched the 700 Club and Pat Robertson. They say it blatantly all the time. You people are always trying to force your beliefs on everyone else, so you should all be done away with before you do something violent like in the Old Testament. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 08-01-2004 08:28 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
A reply to message 116, please PG.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
You did not reply to my post #117.
I will cut n paste it here. Please reply.
Islam is engaged on a campaign of world conquest. It arrogates to itself a predestined world hegemony ordained by Allah, a destiny it must actualize by conquest. quote: You demand that we round her up and exterminate her, correct?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
You did not answer my post #118.
I will cut n paste it here. Please reply.
I do not give a damn about its (the Quran) mythical spiritual value!! I am interested in what it motivates men to do; in the evil it is used to rationalized and justify. quote:
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
You did not reply to my message #119.
I will cut n paste it here. Please respond.
What would you have us do about the enemy ??? quote: Would gas chambers do as a cheap way to perform mass killings?
Why not set up some concentration camps? At least get some work out of them if you're just going to kill them anyway, eh? Tell me, do you sport a little moustache on your upper lip?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
You did not reply to my message #120.
I will cut n paste it here. Please respond.
Are you aware of the Qur`anic injunction against killing women and prepubescent children unnecessarily? Dead women and children can not be sold into slavery. They had no economic value! Males who had pubic hair or beards were converted or killed. The rest were sold into slavery. quote:
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
Keep up the good work. We have nothing to fear with folks like you around to keep everyone and everything straight.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
I don't engage in circular discussion.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
No, she is an apologist and you are changing the subject time and again.
Read the references, apply yourself to the subject.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6902 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
proof that it is what god wants.
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Morte Member (Idle past 6132 days) Posts: 140 From: Texas Joined: |
Ignoring the rest since I only have a moment...
quote: Then what I want to know is, why would you make no exceptions for those Muslims who were "unorthodox" and didn't believe in this conquest and war? Since you said to "send them all to Hell", it seems to be the case that you wish them all dead, but plenty of Muslims bear no ill will towards you or society. How do you intend to sort these out from the "orthodox" while killing them?
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Jubela Inactive Member |
dude...you have got to be kidding your country is broke.
False and irrelevant distraction tactic. The operating defecit results from your champion's overspending & Shrub's weakness: failure to veto the pork combined with the effects of the Clinton stock mkt. bubble (which his policies exacerbated, not relieved) and the skullduggery of Worldcom & Enron ... again aided by his Commerce Dept. If it weren't the satandard unit of trade for oil and *owned* the world bank you couldn't maintain the quality of life you have without anarchy and armed insurrection in the streets. Diversion tactics again. I am not here to argue economics. Your political system is inherently flawed as shown by the farce of your illegally elected president False diversion continues!!! Shrub was elected by the rules. The Supreme Court corrected the egregious malfeasance of the Florida S.C. The case would never have hit the courts except for the fact that Democrats were passing out supernumerary vote cards in heavily Democrat precints. Once again, I am not here to debate politics. The survival of Western Civilization which is assailed by the Barbarians of Islam is far more important!!! yet you would force others to adopt practises and policies of reform based on a supposed superiority complex that is largely at fault for the earth in a state of haemoragging with pollution and global warming and creating a climate for terrorrist to thrive in ??? Blame the victim. Overlooks the state of the world when Islam began its Jihad. Representative Republics & Free Market Capitalism were not around to blame at that time. It is standard Communist maneuvering: deney, deceive, distract, divert & delay. BTW can you tell me why 9/11 happened and how ???...without implicating the highest levels of power in your gov't and surely given your leaders newborn christian fundie beliefs passed on to the nation at large and through the military that would constitute carrying the cross into battle... Classic blame the victim tactics. Overlooks the fatal fact: UBL had himself videotaped celebrating with his buddies. In that tape, he chortled, gloated and bragged about the engineering analyses he perfomed in planning the abomination. That tape has been broadcast world wide and a transcript is available on the web. Let's see what's the score again ??? about 3500 in total US casualties including 9/11 and conservative estimates of 20 000 in 2 theatres of war for "the enemy" and that's not including future generations linked to depelted uranium so yeah it'd be kinda wise not to assume the moral highground. Since when is morality determined by casualty counts? Islam is the agressor. Islam attacked defenseless civilians by surprise. Your argument is not just false, it is malicious, and if made to my face, would likely result in physical injury to your body. It would certainly result in loud and voluminous execration such as you have never experienced! Ever think that the redistribution of wealth and confiscation of land is a major cause of terrorism ??? You have just defined Islam!!! Islam is piracy!!! I have previously posted the ayats and ahadith which establish this significant fact!!! You are unable to address the facts. You are only able to deney, deceive, distract and divert. Your case is meretricious; your cause is evil. You need a Dupont Enema!!!
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