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kjsimons
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Message 138 of 304 (483628)
09-23-2008 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by mike the wiz
09-23-2008 3:05 PM


Re: FINAL POST BOYS
There's just no getting around the fact that any reasonable person can see that the IPU is an invention for arguments' sake, ...
Mike, yes the IPU is made up, but part of the point of making up the IPU is to point out the absurdity of believing in things that we can't detect. One of those thing(s) is/are god(s). If you don't like the IPU, then how about any of the thousand plus others gods that aren't your god. Are all the gods made up except yours or are all gods just made up?
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kjsimons
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Message 142 of 304 (483638)
09-23-2008 3:56 PM
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09-23-2008 3:25 PM


Re: FINAL POST BOYS
Are you promoting the fact that any religious or spiritual endeavour is silly? That would be arrogant.
I wouldn't go so far as to call all spiritual endeavours silly, but religion is an invention of man, to think otherwise is silly. It's not arrogant to be able to discern that fact.
Handwaving them all away as equally irrelevant is not logical, as they are, as I have proven, not equal, by any means.
Please point out the error in my logic then. Where have you ever proven anything on this board?
Your bible portrays an evil god in my opinion. It says right in there that he's a jealous god, he orders the deaths of thousands of innocent people, and don't even get me get started on what he did to poor Job and his family. Your god doesn't deserve to be worshipped!

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kjsimons
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Message 163 of 304 (483805)
09-24-2008 10:02 AM
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09-24-2008 7:41 AM


Re: Big, bad God
My opinion is completey rational, it's religious beliefs of any type that are irrational as they are based on no evidence. I suggest you stop ignoring the evidence that calls your religion into question.
I still don't understand how anyone could want to believe in such an evil god as yours. He creates people just to make them suffer, kills them for having human foibles, and makes a bet with Satan and lets him abuse poor Job. He's not a good god.
You claim he gave you eternal life, but I'm afraid that's just wishful thinking, but that's to be expected from religious people. What's one more irrational belief when you have to swallow dozens of others in order to believe in your god.

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kjsimons
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Message 164 of 304 (483809)
09-24-2008 10:16 AM
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09-23-2008 5:08 PM


Re: FINAL POST BOYS
Sigh! Why do religious people always seem to think morals come from religion, usually theirs exclusively? Humans are social animals, and therefore we developed/evolved social behaviors that benefit the group and the individual. The golden rule is really what most of what we call morals can be derived from. No religion or god(s) needed, we already know how to behave, it's in our genes and having being raised in a social group (ie culture).
If you only listen to the one who is without sin, then you are listening to no-one. Actually, atheists are without sin, as we can't comit a sin against a god(s) we don't believe in.

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