So its all about culture and time? Next year from now murder may perfectly acceptable by collective standards?
Probably not next year but that is certainly possible. That is how morality works.
Relative morals means that we all make up our own at our discretion.
No, that is not true. Relative morality means that through consensus the culture determines morality.
If morals really are restricted to personal belief, that is an absolute phenomenon.
But again, no one but you and the other absolutistas has ever said anything that silly.
My gosh man, make up your mind. Now its immoral for God to do whatever He pleases?
The behavior shown in the Old Testament is quite often immoral and for God to order genocide is certainly immoral by today's moral standards. As you can see, morality has advanced since the time of the Old Testament.
If its wrong by absolute standards, then God is wrong, in which case, something is even above God.
Relative morality can certainly be above the stories in the Bible. The God portrayed in the Bible was quite often immoral by today's higher standards of morality.
The stories in the Bible must be judged by morality standards of the era when they were written, and by the fact that so many of them are just fables, meant to convey a point and not necessarily internally consistent.
When the Pied Piper leads all of the children of Hamlin off never to be seen again, it is a terrible, immoral act. But the point of the story is not the magnitude of evil done to the children who were innocent of any wrong and not even party to the contract. The point of the story is that one should keep their word.
If its wrong by relative standards then that's your opinion and nothing more. I don't know what more can be said about it other than, thanks for sharing.
Well no one has shown any Absolute Standards of morality so that is a moot point. As to relative standards it is NOT just my opinion but a judgment based on the morals of my time and culture.
See how it works?
Then give it time, it'll be back in style. Fashion and morals are retroactive. Just give it a few years and you'll be in agreement with God's judgment by water.
That is possible. However there is also the idea supported by evidence that morals evolve, just like life and knowledge. Morals are based on the accumulation of experience and baring a return to fundamentalist religious systems, likely to continue to improve.
Hell even God realized he screwed up that time and promised not to do it again.
Morals evolve, Over time and as we gain knowledge we are better able to understand the facets that go into decision making. The folk that lived at the time of the Old Testament saw nothing wrong with god ordained genocide. Unfortunately, we still have a few folk today that lack the moral sense to see how bad that was. Hopefully over time there will be few and fewer people so limited.
You seem to think that there cannot be Relative Moral Standards even though folk have given you example after example of just that.
On the other hand, not one absolutist has been able to provide an example of an Absolute Moral, an Absolute Moral Standard or Absolute Truth.
Such things might exist, but if so it would seem likely that someone could present one that stands up to examination.
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