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PecosGeorge
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Message 5 of 80 (157641)
11-09-2004 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by almeyda
10-30-2004 10:00 AM


To the law
and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word (meaning the Bible), it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20
I suppose that is plain enough. The Jehovah's Witnesses have also re-written the Bible to suit their needs.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 13 of 80 (157724)
11-09-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Robb
11-09-2004 3:17 PM


Revelation 22
Verse 18 and 19, may help to establish the fact that nothing is to be added or taken away from scripture. If you believe that God knew that scripture would be subject to tampering, then the warnings throughout the written word, should not fall victim to questioning.
And God knew that his word would be maligned in every shape and form possible.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these
things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in
this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the
book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things
which are written in this book.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 14 of 80 (157725)
11-09-2004 4:47 PM
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11-09-2004 3:17 PM


Revelation 22
Verse 18 and 19, may help to establish the fact that nothing is to be added or taken away from scripture. If you believe that God knew that scripture would be subject to tampering, then the warnings throughout the written word, should not fall victim to questioning.
And God knew that his word would be maligned in every shape and form possible.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of
the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these
things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in
this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the
book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things
which are written in this book.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 15 of 80 (157726)
11-09-2004 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Legend
10-30-2004 9:24 PM


I don't know who Moroni is, but John the Baptist is dead. There is absolutely no way he could help write BoM, and really, why would he want to?

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PecosGeorge
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Message 25 of 80 (157768)
11-09-2004 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Legend
11-09-2004 6:05 PM


Very simply
that you are comparing apples with oranges. John was hardly a Christ, who took up his life after he relinquished it. John cannot do that.
What you are suggesting is called spiritism, a practice severely chastised especially in old testament times when God warned not to seek information from wizards that peep. One of the reasons Saul, the first king of Israel, lost his kingdom is because he consulted the witch of endor, who conjured up someone who looked like the Prophet Samuel. The baptist is dead, he was dust, to dust he returned, and he will never again know anything that transpires on this earth until the resurrection and that takes place at Christ's second coming.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 26 of 80 (157769)
11-09-2004 8:43 PM
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11-09-2004 6:30 PM


Re: Revelation 22
And then some, Brother.
Thank you.
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but you are subject to the Spirit of God, who imparts knowledge when it is sought, and wisdom, and all understanding of what is correct.
Godspeed to you.

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Message 35 of 80 (157900)
11-10-2004 8:36 AM
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11-10-2004 2:31 AM


Re: Revelation 22
Thank you.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 36 of 80 (157901)
11-10-2004 8:39 AM
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11-10-2004 5:59 AM


Re: How do you know?
Isaiah 8:20 takes care of my needs. I miss loads of points, sorry it was yours this time.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 47 of 80 (158016)
11-10-2004 1:03 PM
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11-10-2004 2:39 AM


It tells you how it came about
how it was written, the Bible, that is.
2 Peter 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Timothy 3:16
ALL scriptures is given by INSPIRATION of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reprove, for instruction in righteousness. (Emphasis mine)
Influenced by the Holy Spirit, God and Spirit are one and the same, therefore, yes --- God did write the bible using the instruments he has always used --- men.
Tell me, please, have you ever been motivated to do/say something you cannot really explain? A 'feeling' you had - it just came over you. This may be to do good or to do bad.
(Edit typo)
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PecosGeorge
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From: Texas
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Message 54 of 80 (158093)
11-10-2004 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by arachnophilia
11-10-2004 2:05 PM


Re: It tells you how it came about
Thank you, you are very kind.

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