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Author Topic:   Take the Atheist Challenge!!!
Zachariah
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Message 1 of 321 (106096)
05-06-2004 10:03 PM


I propose to all of you who claim athiest views to take a challenge. You must be truthful and courageous though. I say that many of you can be converted to christianity and will be. You must be honest with yourself and willing to truthfully try. Not just talk it but walk it. I challenge you all to read the book of John start to finish as many times as you can for one week. Every day before you start reading and after you finish, say a prayer asking for direction, proof, if you're real then answer me in some way, etc.... Let me add God doesn't speak verbaly anymore as far as anyone can say so I wouldn't expect something like a loud voice to speak to you. But when you have an open mind and are willing to allow God to speak to you in his way he will. It may be a friend calling you up and talking about the very thing you prayed about giving you the answer to a question or something you are reading. If you ask for him he will be there for you. Be ready. And let me know one week after you post your reply how it's going. God be with you. In Christ our savior. -Zachariah
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Zachariah
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Message 14 of 321 (106421)
05-07-2004 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Rrhain
05-07-2004 4:05 AM


GET IT RIGHT
An atheist actor from California, hmmm...... never thought I'd see one of those. This isn't a thread that I wish to discuss disbelief in rather I want others to try something and hear back. If you aren't willing to try so be it. And I'm not being abnoxious or anything else and I never called anyone lazy. If you wish to speak for me then it should be in a believing way (christian). And others already know how I feel about those who say they tried it. I say if you have an open mind and want to find God then he will come to you. If everyone wants to take the opportunity to bash god for there problems or talk down to LAM or NFORD for giving it a real chance then go ahead I can't stop you. I just think you are cowards for talking smack and not really trying to see the truth. As for Nford (?name) I'll pray for you like you asked. As for the others asking me to give up god for a month. You make me laugh. You think I would DARE speak against my LORD. I think not. Good try. Peace, gotta go. -Z
This message has been edited by Zachariah, 05-07-2004 05:55 PM

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Zachariah
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Message 16 of 321 (106430)
05-07-2004 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by AdminBrian
05-07-2004 6:55 PM


Re: Steady
Give me time to edit if you will. Thanks. Check it again. LOve ya.

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Zachariah
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Message 98 of 321 (107295)
05-10-2004 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Rrhain
05-08-2004 3:12 AM


Re: Loud voice
We could start quoting biblical passages to prove christian points but why? You don't believe anything it says anyway. SO how exactly are we to expect you to have an open mind when you keep opening your mouth (typing) and prooving otherwise. You DO NOT believe there is a god so why should he speak to you. There are passages in the bible that refer to that exact thing. (If you want to know what they are ask and I will provide.) This topic was for those who wish to ask truely for Gods guidance and such to do so in hopes they may find the truth. If you wish to come around and try to just get in the way then maybe you should start your own topic. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 99 of 321 (107297)
05-10-2004 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by NosyNed
05-07-2004 7:23 PM


Re: Dishonesty
your in the wrong topic Neeeeeeedddddddd. Don't hunt me down. I'm busy with this topic now. I'll get your lies when I have time. Love Ya buddy. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 100 of 321 (107300)
05-10-2004 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Denesha
05-08-2004 7:46 AM


Re: Atheists, non-US
When you take the time to type a response to something you think is a waist of time then how exactly am I the one waisting YOUR time. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 101 of 321 (107303)
05-11-2004 12:15 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Rrhain
05-10-2004 1:54 AM


you take the challenge, I'll read your book if you give up your god
Mathew 10:33 "But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven." Are you that crazed. Has satan got his hooks into you so deep that you cannot see anything except what he wants you to. For every obsured thing you say I can find Christ speaking about people like you and what he says about them. I CAN NOT GIVE UP OR DENY MY GOD. To do so is damnation. Do YOU understand that. And if you say you're not an athiest then what exactly are you? You don't believe in the one and only GOD then you have no god excpet satan. And he's a dead end friend. The reason this sounds obnoxious to you is because it's the TRUTH. That always gets the other side mad, you can't stand to hear the truth. Oh well you're going to keep getting it while your hearing from me. By the way I guess I got the "actor" part correct. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 102 of 321 (107305)
05-11-2004 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by riVeRraT
05-10-2004 2:23 AM


LAM and others will get back to us in 3-4 days on how things are going. That's if they haven't got side tracked from the matter at hand by this fly by night subject scramble.

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Zachariah
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Message 105 of 321 (107323)
05-11-2004 2:10 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by coffee_addict
05-10-2004 2:03 PM


LAM,
Try not to lump us (christians) into one big group. As you have seen there are many veiws to one topic.
only you dogmatic people claim such a thing.
I don't claim to know it all by a long shot. I (personally) base my morals, ethics, and such standards on biblical understanding. If others wish not to believe as I then so be it. I'll try to help inform where I can and when asked but I don't think we will ever get everyone to believe the same at the same time. Not until Christ comes back to judge anyway. The noone gets to deny, you just get judged. Prepare yourself. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 106 of 321 (107325)
05-11-2004 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by NosyNed
05-10-2004 3:51 PM


Re: Believing in God
some evidence
How about the solar system or did it just POP!!!!!! into existence. Where exactly did it come from. No creator? -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 109 of 321 (107331)
05-11-2004 2:25 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by coffee_addict
05-11-2004 2:20 AM


Re: Believing in God
The thread wont help. My point is (however the solar system started) it had to have a beginning. A cell doesn't come from nowhere. A rock doesn't form from nothing. At the very basics the start has to have a starter. It cannot form from something unless the something was formed by something. Kinda catchy huh? Gotta song in there somwhere. Looks like it's just the two of us tonight. Want some pizza with your studies my treat. Oh and since it is final you may want to pray for help on the tests, just a thought. lol. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 111 of 321 (107340)
05-11-2004 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by coffee_addict
05-11-2004 2:38 AM


Re: Believing in God
Yeah well, like your folks would say "That B could be an A if tried a little harder" I'll pray for your A how about that. Maybe I was thinking of my parents. Oh, and the "Big Bang" those rocks that banged together.....where did they come from. And the elements H He C N O Pb Ag Ni Ca Cd Bi K they came from where exactly hmmmmm???? God started it all brother!!!! God started it all woooooohoooooooo Oh man it's getting late. I'm heddin home. Hopefully I won't get called out. Pray for me will you. God bless. -Z
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Zachariah
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Message 130 of 321 (107551)
05-11-2004 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Rrhain
05-11-2004 8:17 AM


Re: Believing in God
Why do keep saying I'm refering to evolution. I would really like to know where in the quote to which you were refering I mentioned it. I was speaking of the beginning of the universe with LAM I was not talking about how things came to be after that. The BEGINNING is what was being refered to here. Don't read things not there.

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Zachariah
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Message 131 of 321 (107552)
05-11-2004 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by purpledawn
05-11-2004 9:24 AM


Re: Clarification Needed
My "criteria" is to sit down and say a prayer to God. Ask him to come into your life. Read ANYWHERE in the bible. I won't even make it the book of JOHN it really doesn't matter. The whole idea behind this for me was to get people that had little or no faith or belief in GOD to ask him to come into there life and give them direction. That's all. Open minded to me is how I try to get some of these people to stop talking negative about this challenge and just try it. If they just say "hey god come into my life" in a joking matter like they aren't doing it but they are doing it just to say hey Zach I did it and nothing happened. I say they are not being open minded. I say they are getting in the way of others that may want to get something out of this. I hope that helps. -Z

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Zachariah
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Message 132 of 321 (107553)
05-11-2004 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by coffee_addict
05-11-2004 11:54 AM


Re: Let the deluge commence...
bacteria reproduce as opposed to humans
bacteria don't smoke afterwards and go to sleep.

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