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derwood
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Message 156 of 253 (50724)
08-16-2003 3:52 PM


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To this day I still cannot comprehend the people who suggest that dangerous crime has not increased dramatically since the 50's
To this day I still cannot comprehend the people who suggest that dangerous crime has increased dramatically because of no prayer in school and the 1960's generation.
Some of the most heinous crimes in US history occurred while prayer in school was a common occurrance and the 'worst' drug around was marijuana.
Leopold and Loeb, the Black Dahlia, etc.
Of course, I also find it ironic that that supposed 'evil' generation of the 60's was the product of that oh-so-righteous generation form the 50's.... I guess conservative, super-patriotic Americans make bad parenting decisions.
And, of course, I did not even mention the fact that "domestic violence", that is, wife and child beating, were not even considered crimes until well after that 'greatest' generation was fading...

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derwood
Member (Idle past 1906 days)
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Message 157 of 253 (50725)
08-16-2003 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Buzsaw
08-03-2003 11:50 PM


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George Bush of Texas leading the charge with his tough on crime state of Texas.
Now is that George Bush the 'former' cocaine addict and alcoholic? The szame 'womanizing' G. Bush? The one whose daughter's have been caught repeatedly drinking under age and using false IDs?
Now THATS leadership!
Do as King George says, not as he does.. did, I mean...
And don't divorce your dying wife, like Newt...
Or go on welfare, like Rush...
Or get out of combat service, like Qualye...
etc....

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derwood
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Message 158 of 253 (50727)
08-16-2003 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Rrhain
08-04-2003 5:01 AM


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truthlover writes:
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I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that owning a home in America is out of the reach of anyone who does a good job for an employer.
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Ah, yes...the poor are poor because they're lazy bums.
And people claim the Left is the one engaging in class warfare....
Utter bullshit. Utter condescending, out of touch bullshit.
When I got out of the army, my wife and I moved to Lansing Michigan. we got a one-bedroom, no-frills apartment. No air conditioning. No dish washer. No free cable, etc.
We were given a car by my wife's grandmother - no car payments.
Both of us landed full-time jobs at a large chain, and were paid, at the time, 50 cents an hout above minimum wage.
Within 6 months, our savings were depleted. Just paying rent and bills. Two-full time incomes.
Tell me, 'Truthlover', how was it that we could have purchased a home?
No money for downpayment. No credit history to get a loan based on. Going broke just paying rent on a one-bedroom.
The real truth is, not everyone can afford a home. Even if they work full time.
Here in Vermont, a typical fixer-upper with little or no land will run you 125-150,000.
The average income here is along the lines of 18,000.
Maybe you can tell these overpaid underworked folks how they can own their own home.
They have no chance. Rich folk from Boston and NY come out here to buy 2nd or 3rd 'get away' homes, and have no problem paying top-dollar. And so housing costs have gone out of reach for the typical Vermonter.
I was lucky enough to land a better paying job way back when, and eventually worked my way through college.
But I am not so out of touch, dispassionate, and arrogant to think that folks who can't do what I did are somehow desertving of their situation.

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