We youth at EvC are in Moral Decline

Yup. Another good reason we should encourage the spread of atheism: U.S. Divorce rates for various faith groups. You'll note that the research was carried out by a Christian organisation.

They can berate you all they like. I think rising divorce rates are bad. Since atheists have no common source of absolute morality, we can disagree all we like.

My initial response to your post was "Yeah! Go John!", but then I thought for a second. Divorce is a moral issue. Divorce is a moral issue because it involves make life altering decisions about your children's well-being, happiness and living arrangements. How can that not be a moral issue?Of course that only applies when kids are involved. Seconded.

No. I disagree. It is well established both anecdotally and scientifically that in general children from broken homes do less well at school and suffer more behavioural problems. Therefor a rising divorce rate is a problem.But children are not the only problem with a rising divorce rate, although they are the only one I would consider Moral, as opposed to practical.

Good point. I hadn't considered that. I have not said that a higher divorce rate is a sign of worsening morals. I have said that a high divorce rate is bad (and I don't mean in a moral sense). And that divorce is a moral issue where children are involved.

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No, you think wrong. Violent crime is down to its lowest levels since they started keeping statistics.

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Your link does not support that statement. It has a more recent start date than the link that Truthlover posted, although both come from FBI data yours has additional sources some of which start in 1973. Your data agrees with Truthlover's during the period covered by your data. However in the period between the start date of Truthlover's data starting and your data starting, the crime rate on these values had already doubled.Did you look at Truthlover's link? Your link doesn't go back to the 50's, so you can't possibly claim it means he thinks wrong.

Rrhain. It's not speaking of drunkeness though. Only those who drink in moderation gain this benefit (about 2k a year), those who exceed government limits or are frequently drunk do worse.

I don't really have something that would stand as a formal definition. I mean drinking enough alcohol that your behaviour, reactions, etc. are noticably altered.[This message has been edited by Mr Jack, 08-13-2003]