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Author Topic:   Hydrologic Evidence for an Old Earth
CK
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Message 78 of 174 (326604)
06-26-2006 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by arachnophilia
06-26-2006 6:00 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
I've got to add to this - it's a bit disingenious to an extent to make such a demand. I could understand it if we were dealing with new members of the forum but with a poster like Faith (I've singled out faith because who the hell else is posting for the other side in this thread?) with a long long established track record of ad-hoc reasoning (and you only have to look at the irdium stuff here for a current example), what do you expect to change? What purpose is making such a demand to someone who quite freely admits that no evidence is going to alter or impact a literal belief in the bible?
Faith was banned from the science forums wasn't she? What's changed in her behaviour since then?

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CK
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Message 82 of 174 (326611)
06-26-2006 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by iano
06-26-2006 7:59 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
That's a bogus argument for two reasons:
1) because there is no incompability with being a believer in say the christian God and Science. Jar and may of the others do it all the time. However Faith starts from a position that whatever the scientific evidence is, it's has to be wrong if it does not match 100% with the bible
2)
Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you would forsake a belief in science (read: scientific method) no matter what the evidence?
This is more of a technical answer. This topic is in Science forums therefore any arguments here have to be based around science as we currently know it. What you are suggesting is a matter for the "faith and belief" forums or "is it science?"
What Percy said here
also applies to what's happening here:
Percy writes:
I'm sensing that you don't have a specific objection to the evidence for star formation, nor to the evidence for the distance or age of stars, which is what this thread is really about. I think you're more focused on the more general creationist objection that science can't make statements about things that can't be directly observed in the here and now.
If this is the case then I'll again state my opinion that discussion in this thread should concern the evidence for and against the age and distance of stars. More general objections concerning the limits of scientific inquiry belong in a separate thread in the Is It Science? forum.
Just sub in the words Hydrologic evidence for an old earth for "stars".
If Faith doesn't want to believe that's her business but means that in reality she's unable to argue in good faith here in the science forums.
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Edited by CK, : Copy-edit.

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CK
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Message 123 of 174 (326759)
06-27-2006 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by riVeRraT
06-27-2006 8:37 AM


Re: rat time
Sorry I might be misunderstanding what you are saying:
RiverRat writes:
They only need to go down about 3 miles
The way I read your statement it appears you are saying that they have drilled down to 3 miles or about 4828 metres in the ocean?
I thought that was beyond current technology?

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CK
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Message 143 of 174 (326848)
06-27-2006 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by Faith
06-27-2006 2:08 PM


Evidence? Who needs Evidence?
quote:
And again, we have a book of divine revelation, that IS evidence for OUR view.
that's great but this is the science forums - what scientific evidence do you have?
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CK
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Message 148 of 174 (326854)
06-27-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Faith
06-27-2006 2:12 PM


Re: question
quote:
I find it very odd that a written testimony to a physical event is not regarded as scientific evidence. I'm sure a written record that there was an earthquake in a remote part of the earth 300 years ago would be regarded as evidence that the event did in fact occur.
It would be regarded as evidence that something might have had and taken in context with other sources from the time. In no way shape or form would it consist "scientific evidence".
Why is the silliness and gameplaying allowed to continue? How long has faith being here? And she still pretends not to know the boundaries of science and scientific enquiry.
How is it hard to understand that citing the bible to support the bible is not how things are done in the science forums? It has nothing at all to do with a discussion of the evidence either way.
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