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PaulK
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Message 72 of 118 (306389)
04-25-2006 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Buzsaw
04-24-2006 11:15 PM


Re: What Is Logical?
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1. Logic is closely related to reason/reasonable/reasoning. Math can be tricky and produce unreasonable/illogical conclusions, depending on how it is applied and how what is observed is interpreted. What may be logical to one may be totally illogical to another. Some believe some scientists actually have too much faith in the math they use to come to some of their conclusions, somewhat like other folks consider Biblicalists as having too much faith in the credibility of the Biblical record, regardless of the archeological discoveries, the fulfilled prophecies and other evidence some of us fundamentalists use to support it.
This is grossly wrong. Mathematics is MORE logical than our ideas of what is "reasonable". Even most rational thinking is less logical than mathematics.
The scientists have a huge record of success.
The Biblicists on the other hand have a habit of misrepresenting the state of the evidence as you do. Much of the Bible is unconfirmed or even contradicted by the archaeological evidence. There is no good record of fulfilled prophecies as we have seen on this group.
In fact Biblicists place too much faith in themselves - placing their uninformed opinions above those of people who have put huge amounts of work into understanding the fields of knowledge under discussion. This particular argument is just another example of that.

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Message 74 of 118 (306429)
04-25-2006 7:52 AM
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04-25-2006 6:06 AM


Re: What Is Logical?
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Strangely, if you study formal logic, you'd think you were studying maths.
When I studied formal logic I WAS studying maths. It was a School of Mathematics course, offered in the School of Mathematics building with a School of Mathematics lecturer taken as part of my degree in Mathematics and Computer Science.

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Message 91 of 118 (306740)
04-26-2006 1:42 PM
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04-26-2006 11:06 AM


More importantly, what positions have they reexamined ? If for instance they reexamined the position that nobody could be gullible enough to fall for Hovind's nonsense it still wouldn't speak well of Hovind.

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