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Percy
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Message 87 of 118 (306682)
04-26-2006 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by inkorrekt
04-25-2006 11:12 PM


Re: Keeping The Establishment Accountable
inkorrekt writes:
Science is a prestigious journal. It also published an article by Anton LaVey. In his quest for finding out the cause for AIDS and homosexuality, he did an experiment and got the paper published in Science .He demonstrated that the hypothalamus in homosexuals is smaller than those of normal heterosexual men. There was almost no control. The experimental subjects did not qualify as subjects. The experimental design was so sloppy. This man was criticised from every corner in the scientific community. Anton Lavey quit his prestigious position in the Salk institute. He also quit Science. So much for the credibility of Science and the Scientist.
Are you sure of your information? Anton Lavey was a famous Satanist, and the only match to your claim found by Google was at EagleForum.org in words surprisingly close to your own:
wisemenseekHim at Eagle Discussion Forum writes:
The paper was so sloppy. It really made me angry to see such a sloppy piece of work being published in this prestigious journal. The resutlt was inconclusive. Experimental design was sloppy. There was no control. This was done by Dr. Anton Lavey at teh Salk Institute. He says that his life was devastated by the premature death of his homosexual partner. Then he dedicated his life to find the cause for homosexuality. This is what he did. This experiment has never been reproducible. He does not pursue Science any more.
I doubt Dr. Anton Lavey exists.
inkorrekt writes:
Nature also published a paper in which a new fertility factor was identified in Seminal fluid. After the paper was published, the principal author had requests from all over the world for samples. The author persuaded the Graduate Student to make more of this factor. He could not repeat that experiment.
You've provided no name. This sounds made up.
Many years prior to this,the principal author plagiarised the work of a well known protein chemist. Somehow, he escaped punishment. He was rewarded. He is a director of a prestigious laboratory getting lots of grants. This is unbelievable.
Yes, no names again, truly unbelievable.
There's no need to make up examples of scientific misbehavior because there are actual for-real examples out there. Most recently is the cloning fraud by the Korean researcher who's been in the headlines.
Whether real or made up, you cannot indict an entire field with stories like this. Imperfect human beings inhabit all realms of life, no more or less so than in science. That science includes the necessity for replication makes fraud difficult to perpetrate. It was the inability of other scientists to replicate the Korean cloning results that ultimately led to Dr. Hwang's fraud being uncovered.
--Percy
This message has been edited by Percy, Wed, 04-26-2006 09:51 AM

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