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Author Topic:   The Materialistic God: Could a Multiverse Have Evolved God?
arachnophilia
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Message 8 of 28 (148429)
10-08-2004 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by JasonChin
10-08-2004 9:00 AM


i'm going to address this question two entirely different ways, so bear with me.
speaking in terms of quantum multiverses, anything that can happen probably does. i think it's safe to say with certainty that if a god could evolve, and this whole multiverse thing has any merit, that it has probably happened on at least one occasion.
also, in terms of the bible, the grammar of the sentance "god created man in his own image" supports this claim. one of the phrases in that verse suggests a continuing process, that we are evolving into god(s). jesus also spoke of the church as a bride for god. it's quite possible that the god of the bible is an evolved deity only responsible for creation is this specific universe, and that we are to be a companion for it.
of course, this is all crack-pot.

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Message 10 of 28 (148546)
10-08-2004 9:26 PM
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10-08-2004 8:07 PM


Can a god die? That's a requisite for evolution
up until they achieve immortality, sure. the question is "what defines a god?"

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Message 13 of 28 (148598)
10-09-2004 3:51 AM
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10-09-2004 2:51 AM


if we're using the bible's definition of god, that's wrong.
How about a disembodied conciousness
god has or had a physical body, while still being called god. see the part where he wrestles with jacob, or when moses asks to see him.
omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
genesis 3 list two requirements for diety:
1. knowledge of good and evil (free will)
2. eternal life.

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Message 16 of 28 (148725)
10-09-2004 7:53 PM
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10-09-2004 4:03 AM


This is an ID argument, not a creationist argument. Therefore, I'm not making the assertion that this idea accounts for the existance of the Biblical God.
what's an id argument?
i stated two things. one was that the bible does indeed say that god has a physical body. the other was what god is quoted as saying makes a god in genesis 3.

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Message 20 of 28 (148777)
10-10-2004 3:40 AM
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10-10-2004 2:50 AM


what's an id argument?>>
Intelligent Design.
no, what argument did i make that was intelligent design? i was playing along with the thread, which is more or less id in some form.
Gotcha, but the Bible has nothing to do with my idea.
we were looking for a definition of god, and i provided the opinion of one source.

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Message 26 of 28 (148799)
10-10-2004 4:16 AM
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10-10-2004 3:56 AM


I'm thinking a better definition of God would be one that would be universally agreed upon.........which would be a God that was, for all intents and purposes, all knowing and all powerful.
i was just pointing out that the bible has suprisingly lower standards for deity.

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