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Author Topic:   Liability of the Theory that the law of Angular Momentum disproves Big bang.
JonF
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Message 10 of 41 (64126)
11-03-2003 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
08-17-2003 7:53 PM


Well, this has been pretty well beaten to death already, but I can't resist a short note.
messanjaH, angular momentum is conserved. That means that, if you add up all the individual angular momenta1 of the components of a system, the result is always the same. (Note that if something external reaches into the system it's a little more complicated).
So, to see if the Big Bang theory violates conservation of angular momentum, here's what your source should do:
1. Calculate the initial angular momentum of the universe. Zero sounds reasonable to me, but what we need is a mathematical derivation from first principles, not a reasonable guess.
2. Measure the motion of everything in the entire universe, calculate the angular momentum of each thing, and add them all up.
3. Is the answer to #1 the same as the answer to #2?
Of course, since it seems likely that we can't even see everything in the universe, your source did not carry out step 2; and I'll bet they didn't carry out step 1, either.
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1That may not be the correct plural

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JonF
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Message 14 of 41 (89614)
03-01-2004 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by sonicxp
03-01-2004 7:09 AM


Debates are entertainment Hollywood-style. Science is based on evidence, careful consideration and analysis of that evidence, by many people, written down and recorded, without time limits ... all of which is foreign to Hovind.
Hovind's a con-man. His supposed challenge is carefully tailored to be irrelevant to evolution and science, impossible to win, and even with the deck so severely stacked he refuses to consider many serious challengers.
If Hovind really wants a debate let him conduct one in the pages of the peer-reviewed literature. He never will, of course; there's no money to be made from suckers, and he wouldn't have a chance of holding his own.

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Message 20 of 41 (89992)
03-03-2004 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Fringan
03-03-2004 3:06 AM


I like to think that 0 (nothing) became +1 and -1 in the big bang. Matter and antimatter?
From what we see, matter and antimatter are pretty unlikely ... but it is a very real possibility that the total energy content of the Universe is zero. Gravitational potential energy is negative and appears to be pretty close to the amount of positive energy, maybe even exactly cancelling it.

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