Liability of the Theory that the law of Angular Momentum disproves Big bang.

Messenjah:The really important message out of this thread isn't to do with the big bang. (which by the way I recommend you just take as being a mystery for the moment--- there are lots of hard things for you to wrap you head around, you may want to take them in smaller doses). The real message is that there are a lot of people out there deliberately lieing to you to make you believe what they have to say.Kent Hovind has come up here more than once, he is a very good bad example of the kind of people you have to watch out for.Whoever told you this story about angular momentum and the big bang probably had no clue what they were talking about, none what so ever. Instead they took some crap that someone else had fed them as true. It will take awhile but after you start to learn a few things you will develop a better BS filter that will make good, quick judgements when you are exposed to junk.One little quesion you might ask yourself in a case like this is -- Does it seem likely that the researchers in this field didn't think of this problem? -- Is it likely that someone without a background in physics and cosmology would come up with a problem not understood by those working in the area?It's not impossible in some areas, it is just enormously unlikely. In this particular area it is so unlikely as to approximate impossible very, very, very well.

Why not invite him to a debate here? If his ideas are any good they can stand up to the scrutiny of a bunch of amateurs and a few real scientists.[This message has been edited by NosyNed, 03-02-2004]

This is going off topic but:No, anti matter is created (among other places) in the lab and well understood. It is a "mirror" form of matter that we are made of. So, for example, an anti electron (called a positron) has exactly the mass of an electron but a positive charge.If a matter particle and the corresponding anti matter particle collide they annilate each other and produce just energy. (this is because all the quantum numbers associated are opposite so they all cancel out). This is used everyday to power the star ship Enterprise. You should watch more TV .Dark matter is the generic name given to the matter that supplies the excess gravitational pull of galaxies. What it is is not known. Brown dwarves has been suggested, the mass of neutrinos also and other stuff.

Message 154This is a bump and an attempt to bring this one back on topic.In the first page of this thread this is discussed but I will discuss it again.Individual solar systems may spin in all sorts of directions depending on what happened during their formation. It is generally chaotic. Whatever angular momentum the universe had when it got started must be conserved. The angular momentum of the individual parts must add up to the same angular momentum as there was initially. If they do there is not problem.How about an example: a pool table has a bunch of balls rolling around on it with zero friction with the table but some friction with each other. Their motion will have some total angular momentum as each rotates around it's axis. Some may be still and have zero.As the balls collide others may be stoped cold, some sped up in their spinning and some slowed down. The sum will remain the same as long as it does the balls may end up in any configuration at all. Perhaps we start with them all still. We hit one to get it spinning and moving (that is the big bang). As that one hits others some angular momentum may be transfered. Eventually several will have angular momentum. The original will be stopped perhaps. It doesn't matter as long as the total is still the same as was imparted to the first ball at the "big bang".In fact, the idea of the universe rotating may not make any sense at all. However, the individual particles will have had specific motions that, when added together, give some angular momentum in total. That is what has been collected into stars and solar systems and galaxies. That is conserved.Hovind is either willfully ignorant on this (he's had time to learn) or out right lying. Total dishonesty in either case. Deliberately praying on those who don't know enough to question him. The behaviour of the carnival huckster, a crook, a con man.(small aside: The evolution theory has nothing at all to do with the big bang or cosmology, it talks of how life changes )