Problems with the Big Bang theory

What percentage of the available evidence do we have?Of the percentage of evidence left undiscovered and uninterpreted, is it possible that current conventions of scientific understanding could be overturned significantly?What would the economic and institutional consequences of such a revolution?Would there be any indignant resistance by those currently involved in work that would be rendered irrelevant by new discoveries?Knowledge puffs up!

The way to what you seek, is to sell all of your posessions and give to the poor.Not the kind of profit most are looking for. But in the limited context you offer, you are correct.

I see nothing (in what I have read) from you, that suggests you're interested in honesty or understanding. I see someone with an axe to grind, and who cherishes the opportunity to grind it. I am suprised you could stand to be away for so long.Do what you must. There are plenty of weak and childish Christians (like myself) who need to be matured by learning to deal with the likes of warriors like yourself.As For the topic... The problem with the big bang theory is that bangs always have a cause. And I can say with absolute certainty, that I have personally never emperically observed a bang that was uncaused. And I will go way out on a limb and say that I know with that you have not either.If you have evidence of causeless bangs, please forgive me. I would love to see it. It would certainly give me pause in regard to my metaphysical explanations. As for any theoretical explanations to this dilemma, at what point does theoretical physics become equal to metaphysics? (that's not a can of worms I actually wish to open with the likes of you).Your inability to quench the belief of Christians is eating you alive. Your ineptness to discourage the flock enflames you with icredulity. I would give my left arm to know your biography.Millions are being born-again all accross the globe. They don't get bogged down by the sophisticated and well fashioned sophistry that is so prevalent in the West.Such strict religious faith in science is nothing but a temporal fad. The desperate gasp of men still bent on their illusions of autonomy. It's nothing new, it is just a well oiled institution today; a modern day Tower of Babel.I hope you are enjoying your time torturing DivineBeginnings. Keep up the good work jar... it's good for him to fight the good fight and learn firsthand his dependance upon God. He'll not be the first or the last to remember you.My hat's off to the orange monkey...DB... live and learn.

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It must be eternal!

If it showed itself to us. Like an alien visit only in a vessel that we did not anticipate. A vessel far more sophisticated than our imagined ships of the future.The only risk is that the natural creatures would kill the visitor. We tend to misunderstand that which is alien to our known world.

So please give me a link to the top theories as to it's cause. I am well aware that the bang in big bang is for descriptive purposes only. A way for the unwashed masses to be able to grasp the deep and intriguing realities that only the elect can perceive with any clarity.We are certainly blessed as a society to have these high priests to interpret these things for us, and at the same time assure us that there is no new birth to embrace (pure fantasy they say) so that we can see for ourselves. We cannot know... just ask you!As for your biography, it reminds me of Paul stating his case to the Jews. It would have been better that you were ordained as a minister. I would then know for certain that you have the approval of men. I would know that all the 't's are crossed, and all the 'i's dotted.Call yourself whatever you wish... We both know this; you and I are not of the same Spirit.Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

According to the Bible I read, mankind will not do that. They will resist to the bitter end. It's not as though all science is bunk either.In fact, my favorite part of scientific discovery is the laws. Yes those glorious laws of physics. A gift from God if there ever was one! They say so much about the nature of being.You've done enough coke havn't you? (just kidding... speaking for my own past there). I don't want you to find out after the fact Crash. It's far better to know now. You'll freak out when you meet Him. Better than coke!

My kind of guy! But thank you for the correction; I accept. I do however maintain the point that we need a cause. And the disturbing thing is, we keep needing causes regresively.Get's just plain metaphysical no matter the language IMO.

Is that a scientific process you invoke?That's why we theists like to remind everyone that it's all faith in the greater scheme.Unless God reveals Himself, we just don't know 'Jack'.The good news is... He has! And everybody's welcome.

Kind of hard when you keep changing the meaning. Do you know what you mean?I'm sorry brother jar, I didnt' know you were 'born again'. I didn't ever see you mention it. Even if you had, you obviously don't understand it. It's all right there in the Bible... but you knew that right?... only you didn't mean that!This whole he said she said thing is really quite boring. Like tolerating a kid who is being defiant and manipulative.

By the grace of God!

I love the way you think... We could spend hours talking about things like this over coffee, and it would confirm for my co-workers that I am nuts. A waste of time to most folks, and irrelevant. They are probably right. I sometimes think it is just pride that causes us to engage in this way. I know that is too true for me (Crashfrog will be shocked because he is sinless).Your thinking is very sound and very logical. It makes me glad to report that the Bible doesn't say that God (the creator) lives in time, but that He lives eternally. So you are correct. Nothing in time caused the universe. Something outside of time did. Do you find it a coincidence that the Bible could have avoided that trap?Maybe it is simply circumstantial to you.

You sir are no monkey. You are a pompous ass! A bad combination by any measure.Since when do you presume to tell others what is relevant. There is more to life than your own opinion.

You never knew me when I was an atheist. I hope you're not saying that there is anything immoral about that.I am more than a drug addict. I am a liar, and a murderer; a thief, and a sexual deviant. I am insolent arrogant and boastful. I invent ways of doing evil. In fact if you ask Ringo, I am only human.And that is precisely why I sought to accept the mercy of God.Edited by scottness, : No reason given.