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boolean
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Message 99 of 216 (297481)
03-23-2006 2:05 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
03-22-2006 12:51 PM


Re: No that is not what I'm saying.
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Never mind. Probably best if I hold my tounge on this debate.
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boolean
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Message 110 of 216 (297672)
03-23-2006 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by IrishRockhound
03-23-2006 4:12 PM


Re: Reasoning
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--IrishRockhound
Although Faith may be rock-steady in her belief, there are many, many more who are not and can be dissuaded by evidence and scientific reasoning. How many stories have we heard of fundamentalists who, in the face of the evidence, abandoned the creationist position and became theistic evolutionists instead? They perform these contortions in an effort to stop this.
And I'm one of them. And you know what finally got me to realise there is more evidence for the Loch Ness monster that there is for Jesus and 99% of the bible?
This thread, thanks to Iasion. From that thread I found a link to the Jesus puzzle website too, and with me already wondering how nobody ever told me how bogus half the stuff was, that website sealed the deal. And you know what? I feel so much better about my life than I ever did as fundamentalist, knowing that I am living THIS life, not just carefully setting everything up in the hope I do well enough for the next life. I'm living now, not preparing for the next one.
But, because I have come from the same position as people like Faith, I can see why they believe so strongly. The simple fact is, the bible is not wrong. It's 100% right. No matter WHAT evidence you can come up with, it has to somehow fit around the bible. I know (knew) it is 100% correct, and just because you find some bones that say otherwise, your misinterpreting them. If you told me rocks prove how old the earth really is, you’re wrong because the bible says other wise. You might have tons of evidence that Noah was not real, but your and the evidence is wrong because the bible says otherwise! And then when faced with evidence that is absolutely condemning to areas of the bible and cannot simply be ignored, I would use the same line I see so often around here: “God made it like that”. Bull. Your just saying that so you can conveniently side step any possible doubt that creeps into your mind.
Unfortunately you can never get away from this position and see that maybe, just maybe, the bible is not all it's cracked up to be because that means doubting your faith, and that will send your ass straight to hell. It’s a wonderful little catch 22 the church has made, and no matter how much you bash people in the head, even people who still believe in the Loch Ness monster, telling them ”They used satellite navigation technology to aim 600 separate sonar beams through Loch Ness to ensure that none of the loch was missed and found no trace of the monster”, but it wont make a damn bit of difference. No, just like I had to, you have to figure it out on your own. You have to realise that ”what if?’ your own way, and not be scared by the church or by fears of God condemning you to hell if you see the bible from the other side and realise it’s pretty damn bogus.
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boolean
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Message 194 of 216 (298830)
03-27-2006 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by Faith
03-27-2006 1:12 PM


Re: This is Reasoning?
Faith writes:
Yes you can find out what an extinct sloth had for breakfast. There is no problem with that sort of thing.
You have no problem with 'that sort of thing'? Would 'that sort of thing' be using evidence we find today to get an accurate depiction of the past when there was NO witness (something you say is the only reliable source)? How can you not have a problem with 'that sort of thing' when you've been saying it's completely fabricated guess work for this entirety of this thread?
I think all this stems from the fact that you write off how we date fossils simply because you are not aware of the process. It's the same reason people who think the moon landing was a hoax are the VERY same people who know the LEAST out of everyone how the moon and space actually works, even though they think they are experts. It's no coincidence.
As others have suggested many times, read up on how fossils are dated. If you have, then point out which areas in particular you have a problem with, rather than just saying 'BAH! It's guess work cause I said so!'.
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