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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 166 of 246 (904441)
12-30-2022 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by nwr
12-27-2022 12:40 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
I can share the new model, to those who are really serious in science.

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Message 167 of 246 (904442)
12-30-2022 6:23 AM
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12-30-2022 4:10 AM


That was an old video. I improved a lot and now AronRa was very afraid of me. WHY? Click below:
Amazon.com

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Message 168 of 246 (904444)
12-30-2022 6:56 AM
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12-30-2022 4:10 AM


That was ugly. But I did like one of the comments.
Review title:
"Almost incomprehensible, written by a semi-literate buffoon"
Content:
"Although the author tortures the English language, he unfortunately does not force it to reveal anything."

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 169 of 246 (904445)
12-30-2022 6:57 AM
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12-30-2022 6:23 AM


No, he's not. He will feel the same about you that we all do, which is a strong degree of concern as to your mental wellbeing.
As I've said before Edgar, seek professional help. It will do you the world of good.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 170 of 246 (904446)
12-30-2022 7:41 AM
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12-30-2022 6:56 AM


Content:
"Although the author tortures the English language, he unfortunately does not force it to reveal anything."
That made me laugh - a lot !

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 171 of 246 (904447)
12-30-2022 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-30-2022 6:21 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
I can share the new model, ...
Give it a try. But I doubt that you have anything recognizable as a model.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 172 of 246 (904448)
12-30-2022 8:44 AM


There comes a point where continuing discussions with people who are obviously 'not quite right' is abuse

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 173 of 246 (904452)
12-30-2022 9:59 AM
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12-30-2022 6:56 AM


Remember that I had been debating the followers of Evolution for many years. And the best way of revenge to them is to buy my science books and give negative reviews. Anybody can do that.
But a real critic of science will surely must know the topic, the basis and the explanation - and fight model vs model. In my case, the topic of intelligence, that all of critics that have no idea with.
That is why, I am still the winner.

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MrIntelligentDesign
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Message 174 of 246 (904455)
12-30-2022 10:01 AM
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12-30-2022 8:44 AM


There comes a point where continuing discussions with people who are obviously 'not quite right' is abuse
Yeah, supporters of Evolution are not correct and right. How could they explain reality in biological world without knowing unguided to guided X? They are asking me to use tell, well, know first, then tell here or write science book and give us the link.
Thus, Evolution had made them stupid.

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Message 175 of 246 (904457)
12-30-2022 10:05 AM
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12-30-2022 6:57 AM


No, he's not. He will feel the same about you that we all do, which is a strong degree of concern as to your mental wellbeing.
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As I've said before Edgar, seek professional help. It will do you the world of good.
AronRa is very afraid of me intellectually. I had been calling him in Atheist Experience to fight me in science, since I told him that I wrote a book for his Phylogeny Challenge, but he was very afraid.
Do you wanna help him?
I think that you should go to mental hospital for you cannot define and explain the topic of intelligence. You went to schools too, right?

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Message 176 of 246 (904460)
12-30-2022 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-29-2022 8:54 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Once again, I will repeat, your post was both a claim and a conclusion, but, how do you know that X is not guided or X is guided?
False. It is evidence. It includes OBSERVATIONS!!!! You continue to avoid the evidence, as expected.
I also explained how we know that mutations aren't guided. Here it is again:
"For example, in the plate replica experiment we see that mutations that confer antibiotic resistance are not triggered by the presence of antibiotics. Instead, there are random mutations changing DNA without guidance, and some of those mutations just happen to produce antibiotic resistance."
If mutations were guided then nearly all of the mutations in the experiment would confer antibiotic resistance once the bacteria are exposed to antibiotics, but that's not what happens. The mutations happen randomly with respect to fitness. In other words, mutations are blind to the needs of the organism. That is what makes them unguided.
You really do not understand how science works! YOU CANNOT CONCLUDE a one-sided view of reality!
That's the entire point of science. You follow the evidence to a conclusion, and throw away the conclusions that aren't supported by evidence. You are the one who doesn't understand how science works. You seem to think science is just believing whatever you want to. That's not how it works.
That is why we can distinguish black color to white color because we have limit or dividing line between the two.
What dividing line is that? I guess you never heard of shades of gray?
What we do have is a measurement of how many photons are reflected or emitted by an object, and the wavelength of those photons. The problem is that you can't seem to understand the differences between empirical measurements, opinions, and beliefs.
That is why, no matter how hard you explain to me Evolution, if Evolution cannot answer and invent or discover the criteria between guided X and unguided X in biological world, then Evolution is still a stupid theory!
Evolution has answered that question. I have been giving you those answers for multiple posts now.
Please, use you intellectual mind, you too studied in schools, right? Then, use your mind.
Follow your own advice.
For example, what is a freq allele or a frequency allele? Why can't you answer that question?

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Message 177 of 246 (904461)
12-30-2022 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-30-2022 3:26 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Know it first before telling the public.
We do know it. It's been defined since the 1940's.
MUTATIONS OF BACTERIA FROM VIRUS SENSITIVITY TO VIRUS RESISTANCE | Genetics | Oxford Academic
REPLICA PLATING AND INDIRECT SELECTION OF BACTERIAL MUTANTS - PMC

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Message 178 of 246 (904462)
12-30-2022 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-30-2022 6:21 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
I can share the new model, to those who are really serious in science.
You don't have a model, and you don't know what science is. Even worse, you don't understand what the theory of evolution says, what evidence it is based on, how evolution defines guidance (even though I've shown you multiple times), or how genetics works. You make up terms like frequency/freq allele, as if having made up words makes it scientific.

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Message 179 of 246 (904466)
12-30-2022 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-29-2022 2:50 AM


[qs=MrIntelligentDesign]Re: ID About to Fail?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
As I had told here many times that anybody and everybody can invent definitions...
And any goober can throw out somebody else's definitions, just like any goober can tear down a building.
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
...but are those invented definitions correct and part of reality?
Go ahead and show that they are not. Anybody can tear down a building but can you build a replacement?
MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Words always convey meaning, but if distorted, will also convey distorted meaning.
So go ahead and undistort. All you've done so far is whine. Do something constructive.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Message 180 of 246 (904468)
12-30-2022 11:13 AM
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12-30-2022 10:01 AM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
How could they explain reality in biological world without knowing unguided to guided X?
You have been asked many times, how do YOU tell the difference between guided and unguided. What is the answer?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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