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Taq
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Message 196 of 246 (904665)
01-04-2023 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-30-2022 10:05 AM


MrIntelligentDesign writes:
AronRa is very afraid of me intellectually.
That made me giggle. Thanks for the laugh.
You don't know what the theory of evolution says, how guidance is defined in the theory, how genetics works, or even how the basics of biology works. You don't even understand what a mutation or an allele is. Funniest of all, you don't even know what a phylogeny is.
Why in the world would AronRa be afraid of such a tiny intellect? You don't even know enough to understand what his Phylogenetic Challenge is.

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Message 197 of 246 (904997)
01-13-2023 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Taq
01-04-2023 4:12 PM


Next two weeks, I will be sending a FALSIFICATION ARTICLE for Evolution Theory.
I know reality well, and Evolution is a fantasy.

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Message 198 of 246 (904998)
01-13-2023 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by dwise1
01-04-2023 12:21 PM


I had been calling AronRa in Atheist Experience to read my rebuttal to his Phylogeny Challenge. Also, in the The Non-Sequitor Show. His friend, Jackson Wheat, I also told him to ask AronRa not to be coward and intellectually fight me. But, either in video or articles, AronRa could never rebut me.
If you meet him, tell him that MrID wants you to rebut his book for AronRa, and do not be coward.

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Message 199 of 246 (904999)
01-13-2023 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by Taq
01-03-2023 11:31 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
If the mutations are guided, then the mutations would occur when the bacteria are exposed to antibiotics. In other words, guided mutations are those that are specifically produced in response to the specific needs of the organism.

For the Lederberg experiment, the control was indirect selection.

Here is a basic rundown of the method:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Is Evolution guided or not?
Is Evolution directed or not?
If guided or directed how come a mindless nature could guide or direct? What have you done to know that?
You cannot simply move the goal post every time. You must stand in one goal post and do not move!

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Message 200 of 246 (905000)
01-13-2023 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-13-2023 7:53 PM


He knows you for what you are: a fucking idiot who is too stupid to understand being told that his nonsense is complete rubbish.
Trying to discuss anything (including this simple fact) is a complete and total waste of time. He is very busy doing constructive work and has no reason to waste any time on you.
Besides, we normals have a natural aversion to you mentally ill unfortunates. We have an instinctual fear that your stupid could get on us and so are disgusted by you.
Please seek professional help.

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Message 201 of 246 (905001)
01-13-2023 9:13 PM
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01-13-2023 8:02 PM


WHAT?? Actually, AronRa replied in my comments in his YouTube video that linked here!

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Message 202 of 246 (905002)
01-13-2023 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-13-2023 7:58 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He’s talking about reality.
Is Evolution guided or not?
Is Evolution directed or not?
Yes, evolution is directed. It is guided.
The genomic mutations are random. There is no way to tell what any mutation will do. The part you miss is the environment. The environment is the guide to whether any specific mutation is beneficial, neutral or harmful and whether the mutation spreads in the population or dies out. That determines how populations evolve.
The guiding light for the environment is physics, chemistry. They draw the map evolution follows. And the goal of this guided process is directed toward reproduction.
If guided or directed how come a mindless nature could guide or direct?
Because your view of “directed” and “guided” are borne of religious stupidity, not the energy requirements and flow of the universe.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 203 of 246 (905004)
01-14-2023 12:17 AM
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01-13-2023 9:55 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
Yes, evolution is directed. It is guided.

The genomic mutations are random. There is no way to tell what any mutation will do. The part you miss is the environment. The environment is the guide to whether any specific mutation is beneficial, neutral or harmful and whether the mutation spreads in the population or dies out. That determines how populations evolve.

The guiding light for the environment is physics, chemistry. They draw the map evolution follows. And the goal of this guided process is directed toward reproduction.
These are the reasons why Evolution Theory is wrong.

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Message 204 of 246 (905006)
01-14-2023 12:50 AM
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01-14-2023 12:17 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
What's wrong about it?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 205 of 246 (905007)
01-14-2023 2:04 AM
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01-14-2023 12:50 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
Can you check them in reality?

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Message 206 of 246 (905008)
01-14-2023 2:09 AM
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01-13-2023 9:13 PM


Actually, AronRa replied in my comments in his YouTube video that linked here!
What video? Linked where? Because I sure as hell do not see any link!
Or are you resulting to deliberately lying to us?

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Message 207 of 246 (905013)
01-14-2023 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-14-2023 2:04 AM


answer to troll
We can check them scientifically.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 208 of 246 (905018)
01-14-2023 3:18 PM
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01-14-2023 2:09 AM


Did you look at AronRa's video on YouTube? I commented there and he answered me.

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Message 209 of 246 (905019)
01-14-2023 3:48 PM
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01-14-2023 3:18 PM


Did you look at AronRa's video on YouTube? I commented there and he answered me.
He has a very large number of videos on YouTube. WHICH ONE????
You may as well ask if I looked at that Isaac Asimov book in the public library. He wrote about five hundred (500) books. WHICH ONE????
What kind of fucking idiot are you?
WHICH VIDEO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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Message 210 of 246 (905040)
01-14-2023 8:30 PM
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01-14-2023 2:04 AM


Re: Merry Trollmas
Can you check them in reality?
Yes., of course. That's why they are included in the theory.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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