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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
dad writes: This is a science forum and a science based topic. I am going to ask you to either present your counter-evidence or kindly leave this topic. If you dont listen, you will feel the wrath. (suspensions and worse)
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dad Member (Idle past 1368 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Stop pretending your religion and beliefs are science. That is a misuse of the word.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
You're the one who's misusing the word. You can believe what you want but you don't get to call it science or define what science is. Stop pretending your religion and beliefs are science. That is a misuse of the word."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
The earth has the largest amount of ocean water in the solar system. No one can answer the origin of the seawater and the history of seawater increase. This vast amount of seawater makes the global flood possible.
This alone, is the most powerful evidence of the global flood.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Juvenissum writes: The earth has the largest amount of ocean water in the solar system. No one can answer the origin of the seawater and the history of seawater increase. This vast amount of seawater makes the global flood possible.This alone, is the most powerful evidence of the global flood. Hi Juve, just so you know, this is a science forum so you need to provide evidence and sources for your arguments. Assuming that you're right that the earth has the most water in the solar system, why does that provide evidence of a global flood?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Juvenissun writes: The earth has the largest amount of ocean water in the solar system. I don't know about that.But let's assume you're correct about it, anyway. So - sure.
No one can answer the origin of the seawater and the history of seawater increase. I also don't know about that.But, again, let's assume you're right. So, again - sure.
This vast amount of seawater makes the global flood possible. No, it doesn't. Just because the Earth has the most amount of sea-water in the solar system doesn't mean it has enough for a global flood as described in the Bible.And it doesn't. So the flood didn't happen. This alone, is the most powerful evidence of the global flood. Oh.Well - if the "most powerful evidence of the global flood" doesn't show that a flood happened - I suppose we now all know that the flood never happened.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: It’s likely untrue Extraterrestrial Liquid Water It is estimated that the outer crust of solid ice is approximately 10—30 km (6—19 mi) thick, including a ductile "warm ice" layer, which could mean that the liquid ocean underneath may be about 100 km (60 mi) deep.[17] This leads to a volume of Europa's oceans of 3 10^18 m3, slightly more than two times the volume of Earth's oceans.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Ice does not make flood. Water does.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
Flood needs water. The earth has a lot of seawater. This satisfies the first requirement.
Of course, there are other requirements. But, in the solar system, the earth is the only place allows a global flood. Admit that first. This eliminates the statement: the global flood is impossible.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: So? The ice isn’t counted. Europa likely has twice as much liquid water as Earth.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Juvennisun writes: Flood needs water. The earth has a lot of seawater. This satisfies the first requirement. The water here isn't enough to cover the earth to a level above the mountains. I definitely would have noticed.
Of course, there are other requirements. But, in the solar system, the earth is the only place allows a global flood. I'm still not sure about that but it does seem totally irrelevant. I haven't heard anyone claim that the flood was on another planet, not here.
Admit that first. This eliminates the statement: the global flood is impossible. I'm afraid it doesn't. Some water doesn't equal enough water.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
In fact, Europa is a model for the global flood happened once on the earth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: What an interesting assertion. So Earth had about 30x as much liquid water as it does now (Europa has ~6% Of Earth’s surface area) and a thick layer of ice on top of that. Please let me know what evidence you have for these claims,
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
OK, the second consideration is the land, in particular, the land relief (relative elevation).
This is a more complicate story. It should go from the beginning. The earth has a unique thing called "continent". The current geological model says, the amount of continent increases gradually from minimum to the current 30%. Do you recognize that? (An eye-opening appetite: consider the relative rate of seawater increase vs continental mass increase, does that ring a bell of the possible global flood?)
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Juvenissun Member (Idle past 1338 days) Posts: 332 Joined: |
How do I reply with quote?
Thanks.
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