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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you claim but again, just as with the Bible, the evidence shows you are simply wrong.
This is a fossil sand dune and it is impossible for water to create anything like this. Only wind blow sand does this.
Now if you can present a model, mechanism, method, process or procedure for either of the Biblical floods to create that formation, here is your opportunity. The idea that there was ever a world-wide flood at anytime when humans existed is a silly as claiming the Bible does not have errors, fallacies and contradictions or that it is not simply the product of humans.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Plus sand comes from eroding rocks that were higher than wherever the sand is found. Before you can get sand you first gotta build mountains and then wear them down.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If it is underground how can it look like surface rivers? How could the channel get filled up with material that is different than the immediate layer above it? Surface rivers are a semi-circle form, a flat surface on top. How can an underground river have a flat upper surface and be filled with material different than the layer above?
Faith, again, there is no known process, procedure, model, mechanism or method for a flood to create underground rivers that look like rivers formed on the surface.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
They were surface rivers Faith.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL
The Wave is eroded sand dunes. The sand dunes were created on land but the current shape is due to errosion of wind and water. Basics Faith. Try to learn the Basics.
Note the cross bedding Faith, something impossible for a flood to create but typical of sand dunes.
Edited by jar, : there's no y in The
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Surely you know I'm not going to take comments that deny the Flood seriously, I have to do my own research and I don't feel like it at the moment. And that statement is proof positive of your disconnect from reality and total inability to think critically. It is why you will always be wrong about reality, science, religion and life.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And we see that happening everyday. Surfaces get buried gradually under newer deposits as higher place get weathered and eroded and all that moves to lower levels.
But it takes time Faith, millions and millions of years. Reality shows us that Young Earth and any silly Biblical Floods are simply impossible.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yet that is exactly what did happen Faith. All of the evidence supports that fact.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But it is not impossible Faith and it is what happens. But it happens slowly over millions of years. And it's why when we do find a fossil we also find the evidence of what the environment was like at the time the critter died.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Different sediments in different places but no signs of the shapes of lake bottoms or river bottoms etc. Really Faith. Has anyone ever mentioned the Green River Varves to you? They are classic examples of what a lake bottom looks like.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Basics Fait, Basics. Glacial rebound was a great subject back in the seventh or eighth grade scince class.
It's real simple. The weight of a glacier was sufficient to compress the surface under it. Take that weight away and over time the surface rebounds. BUT, and try to pay attention Faith. We only see Glacial Rebound where there was glaciers. Water is actually denser than ice. Had the world been covered in water high enough to cover mountains then we should see Flood Rebound at every point on the Earth. We don't. So Glacial Rebound is simply another nail in the coffin of utterly sill idea that either of the Biblical Floods ever happened. AbE: A cubic foot of water weighs slightly more than 60 pounds. The Biblical Flood myths have the flood covering the mountain. If we assume we are only talking about smaller mountains, those like those found in Turkey, the mountains of Ararat then we are looking at mountain 2 or 3 miles high. That would mean a pressure of three to almost five MILLION pounds per square foot on every land area. Again, if the Biblical Floods had ever happened we would have to see evidence of Flood Rebound many, many times greater than Glacial Rebound at ever point of the Earth. We don't. So neither flood ever happened. Edited by jar, : see AbE: baby steps towards basics
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Oh but there would be no Flood rebound because it drained into the vaccume left by the fountains of the deep beneath the sea floor when the water started rising. That's the theory of the moment. You might try to keep up, jar. I would also suggest that the rising of the land from the rebound would go a long way to counteracting the rising of the sea water. More utter nonsense that is refuted by reality as always. Regardless of which imaginary made up addition to the Biblical Flood Myths you create they remain refuted by reality. No matter where you store your imaginary water it would still reduce the pressure on the surface of the land (and even the sea floors as well). And we do not see any evidence of such a rebound. The topic Faith is "Did the Flood really happen?" and so when you introduce evidence that totally disproves any world wide flood like the evidence of Glacial Rebound which can be measure and Flood Rebounds that simply does not exist it really is relevant. Neither of the Biblical Floods ever happened and ALL of the evidence supports that conclusion. Edited by jar, : fix sub-title
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The topic is "Did the Flood really happen?"
If either of the Biblical Flood myths ever actually happened we MUST see rebound at every spot on Earth greater than what we see from Glacial Rebound. Remember ice is less dense than water; ice floats in water. The undeniable fact that we do NOT see any evidence of Flood Rebound is conclusive evidence that neither Biblical Flood ever happened. That seems relevant to the topic "Did the Flood really happen?" Don't you agree?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We would see the surface rising based on satellite data. We would see elevation increasing everywhere.
AbE: it's the same as measuring how some mountain chains are still growing. Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Okay, change the term. But submitting every square foot of the earth to a few billion pounds of water placed there in just one year is a pretty extreme event.
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