Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

AZPaul3:

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Atheism

Dredge:

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As an atheist, all you've got to look forward to is old age, sickness and death. Good luck with that.

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His only hope is that there is nothing after death. He thinks he has the preponderance of the evidence. He can present that evidence to Jesus Christ when his day of judgment comes. He can tell Christ, "You are lucky I was there, I'm such a good guy".

At least Tangle would listen to my explanation, while you keep your head firmly wedged up your ass.You stupid troll.

Kleinman:

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If you have trouble doing the math, ask dwise1.

dwise1:

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At least Tangle would listen to my explanation, while you keep your head firmly wedged up your ass.
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You stupid troll.

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What's the matter dwise1? Don't you want to explain the "at least one rule" to Tangle? Don't you want to show Tangle where your head is? That and the multiplication rule are used to explain descent with modification and adaptation. And it is disappointing that you haven't used a single smiley face in your post.

CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

I will gladly admit that the lifecycle can include the production of viral particles from provirus inserted into the genome. There can also be cases where this doesn't happen. That is what you won't admit. Tell us about those who are infected with HTLV, most of whom will only ever have mild symptoms. Tell us how this retrovirus is not driving humans to extinction. You are running away from the fact that you disagree with all of the top virologists in the world.

I'm an atheist and I don't say that. Perhaps you don't understand atheism? Our lack of belief in your god is really no different than your lack of belief in Thor or Vishnu.

Even after all this time you still don't understand how meiosis and sexual reproduction works.

Anyone who claims there is no God and no after-life must have died and seen what's on the other side, then come back to tell us. How did people like APauling do that? It's an astonishing feat!!

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse" (Romans 1:19-20)

Kleinman:

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You won't admit to what the entire life cycle is of the virus because it doesn't fit your irrational belief system.

Taq:

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I will gladly admit that the lifecycle can include the production of viral particles from provirus inserted into the genome. There can also be cases where this doesn't happen. That is what you won't admit.

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You are being silly again. You are claiming that it happens 203,000 times.

Kleinman:

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Tell us about those infected with HIV and are not being treated.

Taq:

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Tell us about those who are infected with HTLV, most of whom will only ever have mild symptoms. Tell us how this retrovirus is not driving humans to extinction.

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They have mild symptoms except for those that end up with lymphoma. And how many of those cases were due to the infection of a germ cell line?

Kleinman:

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I also disagree with your irrational understanding of the physics and mathematics of biological evolution. That is why you can't explain the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail. You make irrational misinterpretations of the data to fit your faulty belief system. That's why you can't explain mathematically the Kishony, Lenski, Desai, or Peabody experiments and make irrational extrapolations of the Desai and Peabody experiments.

Taq:

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You are running away from the fact that you disagree with all of the top virologists in the world.

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Sometime really bad and irrational ideas circulate among scientists. Virologists and biologists have bungled the physics and mathematics of descent with modification and adaptation. Perhaps if you studied some thermodynamics you could see your error?
The following is from Message 681

Kleinman:

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So, when an atheist says there is no God,

Taq:

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I'm an atheist and I don't say that. Perhaps you don't understand atheism?

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Atheism - Wikipedia

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Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

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Do you know everything in the universe? If you were logical, you would call yourself agnostic. But you are not logical.

Kleinman:

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How do atheists come up with that idea? Give us your rational explanation.

Taq:

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Our lack of belief in your god is really no different than your lack of belief in Thor or Vishnu.

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I wouldn't say it that way. The belief in Thor or Vishnu is a misunderstanding of God.
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Kleinman:

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That and the multiplication rule are used to explain descent with modification and adaptation.

Taq:

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Even after all this time you still don't understand how meiosis and sexual reproduction works.

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You are being silly again. I learned how meiosis works in biology. However, if you think you could breed a humans from chimpanzees, go for it.Let's consider another one of your irrational ideas in more detail, that of ERVs. You claim that humans and chimps share 203,000 ERVs because a common ancestorial lineage had these ERVs before the human and chimp lineages branched. And those ERVs represent 8% of the genome of both humans and chimps. Here's a simple representation of the nested hierarchy. Were ERVs being accumulated in the genomes of the earliest life forms? If so, what is the percentage of the genome of these ERVs accumulated?

Kleinman:

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For a single selection pressure: ...

AZPaul3:

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CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

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You forgot to list those papers.
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
For multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistanceAnd dwise1 will help you with the mathematics. He can explain the "at least one rule" and the multiplication rule to you.

Kleinman:

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Atheism is based on the irrational concept that there is no God. That would require knowledge of everything.

Dredge:

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Anyone who claims there is no God and no after-life must have died and seen what's on the other side, then come back to tell us. How did people like APauling do that? It's an astonishing feat!!

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Don't you know that atheists have a preponderance of evidence? It's a secret only they can understand.

Kleinman:

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His only hope is that there is nothing after death. He thinks he has the preponderance of the evidence. He can present that evidence to Jesus Christ when his day of judgment comes

Dredge:

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"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse" (Romans 1:19-20)

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You are quoting the Bible to those that hate the Bible. They don't want to know they are sinners. They are sinners that can't do mathematics.

I've noticed. That's what happens when atheist fantasies about the history of life on earth replaces true science.

Their claims about God are as embarrassing as some of their claims about science.