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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Thanks for sharing. Thats an honest story. You do not strike me as a militant atheist. Do I strike you as an extremist? Just asking. I am quite literal in regards to many of my beliefs, but I have never supported legislation of morality.
My Pastor is strong in his beliefs, and is against discrimination towards men of color. GRID. The Gang reduction initiative works to develop and support a network of partner agencies and programs to provide effective and efficient prevention strategies that collectively strengthen families and communities, provide effective and efficient case management intervention strategies to high-risk gang members and their families, and ensure effective enforcement of violent gang crimes. I understand the cultural battle. Faith based organizations should be embraced as well as other forms of community assets, but no church or religion should predominate and exclude all other religious or secular approaches. The keyword is balance. Thank God there is no religious persecution in this country. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
In my opinion, what we are really seeing is the loss of Christian Privilege, which some Christians see as persecution. There was a time in US history where the Bible was offered as valid justification for a law. Why was homosexuality against the law? The Bible says so. This reminds me of a rapper named Bizzle. He wrote a song challenging Macklemores
Same Love video. Bizzle Responds To Macklemore's "Same Love" Christian Rapper Bizzle Responds to Macklemore Free speech lives! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
yes i do
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
yes thats what I meant. We still need to work on our bias
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
inferior? dont you mean minority?
Minorities may be a smaller percentage of the population, but are hardly inferiorChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
DWise1 writes: America isn’t growing hostile towards Christians— it is growing hostile towards religious bullies, and there’s a big difference between those two things.(...)During the "Jesus Freak Movement" (which I lived through), fundamentalist Christianity was highly virulent. A major factor of that was End-Time Revelations and all that nonsense. After the mid-1970's I lost track of the local fundamentalist nonsense, having enlisted and been shipped elsewhere, but later I heard of a charlatan who wreaked havoc on the local major fundamentalist church, the center of the "Jesus Freak Movement" (ie, the massive influx of those members had propelled it into the Mega-Church category). That charlatan mispresented himself as a former Satanist who in the 1980's cause all kind of havoc. I will regard him much as the Mule in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, an anomaly who upset the natural evolution of things. Taq writes: In my opinion, what we are really seeing is the loss of Christian Privilege, which some Christians see as persecution. Then I said: I understand the cultural battle. Faith based organizations should be embraced as well as other forms of community assets, but no church or religion should predominate and exclude all other religious or secular approaches. The keyword is balance.
ringo writes:
So I suppose we can all agree that there is persecution of and discrimination against many minority ethnic and religious and secular groups in this country and that Christianity---being a majority group--is largely exempt from persecution in the United States.
Democracy should not be only for the superior. nwr writes: I think he(LamarkNewAge) may be attempting to completely derail this thread.He may have succeeded. Not yet. Lets continue with our discussion, shall we?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 18353 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
To LamarkNewAge:
Your links are relevant to this conversation. Thank you for attempting to remain on topic. The first link, New Creationist Movie Is The Latest Religious Right ‘Christian Persecution’ Film talks of the many Christian persecution films that are coming out. These films are purposefully made to pander to a specific audience of free and entitled Christians who feel as if society just doesn't understand the reasons for their faith nor does society want to understand and embrace these beliefs. The second link is confirmation of google hits on the same issue. The third link appears directed at me as a moderator. You have a point in that argument but I suggest we take it elsewhereSo lets focus on DWise1's opening post for further discussion. DWise1 writes: The earliest Christians were convinced that the Second Coming was imminent, could happen any moment now. It is said that they wouldn't even bother to plant any trees, because nobody would ever be around to pick any of the resultant fruits. And yet the Second Coming did not happen and the resultant fruit of those trees planted nonetheless by non-believers was indeed eaten. The prophecies proved false ... and were immediately forgotten.Similarly, the Jesus Freak Movement expected the End Times to be immediately at hand. But as with that prior generation two millennia earlier, their families were still there and their children were still there and their grand-children were also still there. Despite all their religious beliefs, life still went on and their families still went on and their careers still went on. And over time, the virulence of Christian fundamentalism diminished, as with any virus. Question for DWise1: Do you equate the audience for these modern Christian "persecution" films to be the type of Christian fundamentalism that is essentially socially and culturally "viral"? Why or why not?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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