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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Sounds like a good topic. Will you be discussing formal Christian meetings...such as what we call churches and congregations? Will you explain what you consider to be the right way versus the wrong way to have a meeting? Or is there such a thing as a WRONG way...?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
jaywill writes: I have been at churches before where weekly small group studies were encouraged and I have attended a few. There are certainly pros and cons to such a meeting. I have a few questions.
This is not a legal matter. It is a good principle. "We start at this time. We fellowship for this amount of time. We say goodbye for another good meeting on another day." ABe: Im joking of course. Show us the Bible Study... Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Faith writes:
Logically this makes sense as genetics is similar. Arnold Schwarzenegger was gifted with particular genetics that made it possible for him to become a premier bodybuilder. Most of the rest of us could train till the cows came home and never approach his size due to us having less God given genetics. God gifts individuals as He wills and it's never ALL who receive a particular gift.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Stile writes: I agree with the focus being on Jesus. I will respect those who believe in God but may not yet know Jesus. And I will love and tolerate all people of all persuasions--but probably won't see them at these meetings.
Come to the meeting to think and talk and focus on Jesus Christ.Act as Christ-like as possible during the meetings (don't scream and yell or put down other people, don't swear, don't be a jerk...) All people have the right to speak, all voices have the right to be heard, be respectful of other's thoughts and experiences about Jesus Christ. Faith writes: I believe that on an individual level revivals can happen anytime an individual seeks God. Nationally is another issue though. How can there ever be revival in a secular environment unless God Himself initiates it? I associate that kind of glorious immersion in the things of Christ with revivals, which is why I've been praying and hoping for revival for a long time. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Stile,to jaywill writes: This reminds me of something. Early on in my believing life,that is, when I actually liked going to church rather than doing so out of obligation or other reasons, I would attend meetings where the Pastor would attempt to get everyone whipped up into an emotional frenzy--at least, thats how I perceived the meeting to be. He/she would say something like "Isn't God good? Turn to your neighbor and say 'God is so good' Turn to your other neighbor and say 'all the time'." Most of the audience would obediently do as the speaker suggested. I perceived a bit of fakery. I myself always preferred being honest rather than putting on a cheesy smile and responding like what Buzsaw used to call "a Sheeple". [cheesy smile] [/cheesy smile] My point is that everyone at the meeting should honestly feel joyful from deep within and never force such behavior to happen. Thats my opinion, anyway. Ha ha, I did not intend the athletic example to be taken so literally. I especially didn't want to start anything over who's ego is more excited about their rejoicing either... such a thing can only be determined by each individual. My only point with the athletic example was to show that some people react to excitement differently.You seem to understand this. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I'm not saying what I want to say...allow me to reword my response.
What I actually mean't to say:
Early on in my "believing" life, I went to church partly because I had "gotten saved" and partly because I felt an obligation to attend. I was too insecure in myself and in my personal faith to think for myself. I recall the early days:I would attend meetings where the Pastor would attempt to get everyone whipped up into an emotional frenzy--at least, thats how I perceived the meeting to be. He/she would say something like "Isn't God good? Turn to your neighbor and say 'God is so good'!! Turn to your other neighbor and say 'all the time'!!" Most of the audience would obediently do as the speaker suggested. I perceived a bit of fakery. I myself always preferred being honest rather than putting on a cheesy smile and responding like what Buzsaw used to call "a Sheeple". [cheesy smile] [/cheesy smile] My point is that everyone at any meeting should honestly feel joyful from deep within and never force a given behavior to happen. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
jaywill writes: I agree with you and will say that I have experienced the overflow of which you speak. Critics would deride the experience as a woo moment and might argue that Christians simply expect such emotional experiences to happen. And they have a valid point. the Toronto "Blessing" comes to mind. To them, I would only say that I believe--though do not know for certain--that I can discern the difference between hyper-emotionalism and a genuine communion with the Holy Spirit present. I know that they are going to ask me how I would test such a comparison.
I would say that the MOST genuine one, the MOST sincere one, and the MOST real one is Jesus Himself. What we want to move toward is living in union with Jesus, the REAL one - the truth. Then when we come together, we overflow something of our enjoyment of living Christ.jaywill writes: Jesus Himself...on His way to the cross..
Could that sometimes involve tears or sorrow? Yes. We may be in the midst of a sore trial. Christians are not exempt from any of the misfortunes which befall unbelievers. Our growth in life necessitates that we suffer things which drive us out of spending our own resources but being supplied by His (Spirit/wisdom/resources) quote:I notice two things. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
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