The Brand New Birther Thread

She was providing the obviously doctored video linked below as evidence. While she did additional post her reasoning for considering it non-fake, her reasoning did not include checking out the possible avenues discussed on the you tube page where the video can be found.I fully expect Faith to claim that she should not be expected to read an entire web page when citing it. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Maybe we are lacking in some sanity. Isn't it insanity to expect different results from taking the same actions?In any event, I find the latest debacle both hilarious and illuminating.

Reading your posts has that train wreck fascination.You found something on a web page... You just heard something... You don't know the facts...Trump repeatedly leveled birther charges against Cruz during the primary. And folks have been throwing Cruz up in birthers faces ever since he elected to run. What other relevant facts have you refused to learn or accept?Seriously, why should anyone respond to what you post? Modulus is doing you a huge courtesy by taking you the least bit seriously. FWIW, I don't think you are a racist but the xenophobic stuff you spew here is sure not any improvement over racism.

Actually, Trump did bring up the issue regarding Cruz on a number of occasions.

Wrong Faith, because what we are comparing is your assumed situation regarding Obama to the actual facts about Cruz. It is a lie that Obama was born in Kenya, but taking that lie as truth ends up with a situation that is still slightly better than Cruz's actual situation. Again, the facts are that Cruz and his parents were all Canadian citizens and that Cruz was born in Canada. The lies about Obama attempt to get him to a similar state.So none of this why you reach dissimilar conclusions about the law. It is your, according to you, unexplained bias against Obama, which you claim is not just hatred. Despite your wishes, the constitution would not prevent a Muslim from becoming president anyway.

Are you claiming that such is Obama's agenda?

Statements like this are why folks accuse you of being prejudiced and xenophobic. Why you feel that statements like this are more acceptable than just calling folks niggers is beyond me.

If, in fact, you held such a believe and did make witchery a criminal offense, do you think such a thing would be excusable? Because if so, you are pretty much proving the point. Namely that for you, Christian crimes are excusable. Didn't you claim in a previous discussion that James I lived a blamess life? Of course you do given your hatred for all things Catholic. Your thinking would be exactly so. That you easily remember things in you want to believe is a thought pattern people have pointed out repeatedly in this thread. Your knowledge is very selective. What about the witch trial in Hartford Connecticut, which occurred nearly thirty years before the Salem trials? Beyond the executions, other folks were prosecuted and punished for practicing witchcraft. The earliest confirmed execution in the US for witchcraft was 1647 and the last confirmed execution was in 1779.[1]Your rebuttal is that Catholics were actually worse than Protestants who were really sincere? Really?[1] See http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/ESPYyear.pdfEdited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

You made it sound idiotic and insane. Essentially, "If you were a superstitious person who believed that your own failures were caused by someone else, you might burn a witch." If I were Hitler or Luther I might say something similar about Jews. Would that be justifiable. "Sorry for the pain, but I'm just following my beliefs to their natural ends. For that matter, you make exactly that claim about how Muslim's behave. My point is to make an understandable analogy that might appeal to whatever shred of honest you have left. Let's not play the martyr card so quickly. Lots of folks, Christian are not, believe in evil spirits, voodoo, etc. and they are all pretty easy to laugh at. None of their stories make their murders sympathetic.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

They were morally equivalent to murder. I stand by my characterization. In Salem, the state and the church were inseparable. The trials were "stopped" by the clergy enforcing better rules of evidence and not by a realization that they were perpetrating evil. Every single person tried, whether or not they were executed, was completely innocent of witchcraft because that crap does not work. I never contradicted the idea that C S Lewis made that statement. You can take that particular issue up with jar if you'd like. I don't care if it was C S Lewis or the Queen of England who expressed the idea that superstition makes you kill folk. C S Lewis statement is a complete and utter validation of the principle of separation of Church and State, and possibly also a validation of the principle of not allowing the state to have the power to execute folks. The vilification is not because you are Christian. You are being ridiculed for using superstition to justify the unjustifiable. In fact, it is not all Christians who are being ridiculed here, it is just you who happens to be the one accepting and making BS excuses.

You do a fairly poor job of checking things. Getting most things right (anything over 50 percent) is not a good track record. You've had to back off of any number of assertions in this thread alone. If you want an accounting, I'd be happy to provide one.

Lol! And even when you do look things up, you come up with fakes and misreadings a high percentage of the time. So you are right... why even bother to make attempts at accuracy if you are going to fail much of the time when you do some research.