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Message 161 of 380 (712695)
12-06-2013 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Faith
12-06-2013 4:33 AM


Faith writes:
TRUE SCIENCE has produced the advancements you are talking about. Evolution, archaeology, Old Earth Geology have produced ZIP as far as advancement goes. Just a morass of navel-gazing speculations that cannot possibly contribute one thing to human advancement, and are in fact leading the whole human race down a primrose path of absolute nonsense.
Season of goodwill to all men (and women) aside; you're a blithering idiot.

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Message 163 of 380 (712697)
12-06-2013 6:29 AM



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Message 260 of 380 (712944)
12-08-2013 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Faith
12-08-2013 4:14 PM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
I guess you simply have the usual learned inability to see what's wrong with the idea of a landscape being encased in solid rock, a whole stack of them yet, all different kinds of rock too. No problem for the evolutionist mind of course, reality is never a challenge.
Tiny, weeny little point here Faith that I wouldn't normally bother about, but when you're talking about rocks, it's geologists not 'evolutionists' you have a problem with.
I only mention it because you tend to think that 'evolutionist' is a synonym or satan so I'd just like you to spread the evil around a bit.

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Message 287 of 380 (712992)
12-09-2013 2:18 AM
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12-08-2013 6:15 PM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
Yeah I know it's geologists, but the thing is the geologists and the evolutionists are in cahoots about the ridiculous interpretation of the layers and their fossil contents, and they ARE evolutionists too you now.
Right.
The world's geologist's and the world's biologists are all in cahoots to spread a lie about both how rocks form and how organisms evolve. Odd how those two quite different disciplines manage to make a coherent and inter-locking story, but that's just lucky i guess.
These days of course, in order to maintain these great conspiracies the biologists had to recruit the chemists too so that the stuff being discovered about molecular genetics doesn't screw thing up for them.
It was a clever move getting the physicists to invent all that radio dating stuff too - they didn't have to of course, some say it's overkill but it all adds power to the conspiracy.
And what a stroke of luck that astronomers joined the conspiracy of an old age universe without even being asked!
It's the most successful conspiracy of all time: it's independent of political party, religion, gender, race, and country and it's held up for a couple of centuries. It even seems to work in the real world - finding oil, making drugs, sending mechanical objects far into space.
As a conspiracy, it's so successful that it's indistinguishable from reality. And yet, you, armed with only a computer, access to the intertubes and a 2,000 year old book of myths have seen straight through this enormous scam.
Or maybe, just maybe, you're wrong?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 292 of 380 (712999)
12-09-2013 3:07 AM
Reply to: Message 289 by Faith
12-09-2013 2:29 AM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
I have nothing against geology as such you see, but I have a lot against evolutionism
But you *should* have something against geologists because they decided that the earth was old *before* the satan Darwin came along with his evil ideas.

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Message 294 of 380 (713001)
12-09-2013 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 293 by Faith
12-09-2013 3:09 AM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
.....I'd rather call them evolutionists anyway if you don't mind because it conveys what I want to convey, which "geology" doesn't. If you don't mind.
I don't mind at all Faith, not at all.
By saying 'it conveys what you want to convey' despite it being factually incorrect at a very basic level, you just demostrate perfectly your dishonest approach.
By calling geologists, chemists, physicists and astronomers 'evolutionists' that are all involved in a global conspiarcy, you just promote your prejudice and bias.

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Message 300 of 380 (713028)
12-09-2013 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 296 by Faith
12-09-2013 4:20 AM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
But I DON'T call chemists, physicists and astronomers evolutionists, and I just said I'm not talking about a conspiracy so it's you who are lying and promoting prejudice and bias.
Really, so when you said this:
Faith writes:
No, I don't consider them [Ed:chemists, physicists and astronomers] to be intentionally deceiving us, I think they are deceived but it's got an iron grip on them they refuse to let go. I have nothing against geology as such you see, but I have a lot against evolutionism, and since geologists are also evolutionists insofar as they share the same view of the strata and the fossil record, I call them evolutionists. It's really not such a complicated thing as you would prefer to make it out to be.
It just means that they're all just stupid and wrong?
An 'evolutionist' is an anti-science, creationist, label which appears to mean anyone of any discipline that accepts evolution. This is a descriptor of virtually every scientist on the planet so it really doesn't define anyone at all.
ALL of science is against you so you might as well stick to standard labels and just call the ones that actually study evolution biologists so we're clear which particular branch of science you're trying to slander.

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Message 325 of 380 (713082)
12-09-2013 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Faith
12-09-2013 12:32 PM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
Not chemists
Chemists show that your DNA is 98% the same as a chimp, thus showing that people and other apes are related as predicted by the ToE.
and physicists
Physicists prove that the age of the earth is greater than 4,500 years using radiometric dating
and astronomers,
Astronomers put the age of the universe at 14bn years
what they do is valid because it's testable.
Really? You now accept these sciences as valid? Are you sure?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 328 of 380 (713086)
12-09-2013 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 327 by Faith
12-09-2013 1:31 PM


Re: uniformitarianism
Faith writes:
NOT WHEN THEY ARE MAKING CLAIMS ABOUT THE PAST. But that's not their normal work.
So they're wrong when they're making claims about the past but right at all other times.
What is it, do you think, that makes them so stupid studying yesterday but clever at studying today?
No matter, tomorrow your DNA will still look 98% the same as a chimp's, stars will be only a tiny bit older and radioactive isotopes will decay at the same rate and in the same pattern.
We can add too, that trees will add another ring, ice will form another layer, diatoms will sink to the lake floor and corals will add more calcite in annual growth patterns.
And in a few thousand years time some chemist/physicist/biologist/archaeologist/geologist will look at them all and not be in the slightest bit surprised to find that all the dates agree. Just like they do today.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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