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Message 12 of 380 (712371)
12-03-2013 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by scienceishonesty
12-03-2013 10:34 AM

Re: on religion.
science is honesty writes:
Then I would argue that you are probably not a devout Christian. Do you know it 100% to be the "truth" or not? If you admit that it might be wrong, then it isn't a religion, it's just some abstract pet idea to make yourself feel better.
I could sit here and say the same thing, well, I'm a Christian but if science invalidates everything then I'll be willing to accept that I'm wrong. I already did that and realized there's no purpose in doing that.
Religion already knows and doesn't need the answer, it understands already (for a fact). Science is constantly seeking truth and making itself willing to adapt and change based on new evidence. Is it really hard to see that there is an inherent conflict?
This position is no more reasonable than your creationist position. In the first place religious belief is a faith in certain truths. My Christianity is based on the faith that God is good, just, and loving and that the NT writers are correct in their telling of the resurrection of Jesus. Christianity does not require an inerrant Bible. The Bible should IMHO be understood based on the two criteria I just mentioned. My beliefs are continuously evolving as I gain new information or insights from whatever source including this forum.
As far as science is concerned it is essentially a natural theology which is consistent with what Paul writes about particularly in Romans 1:20. As I mentioned in another thread I just read Brian Greene's book "The Hidden Reality". It reads as much metaphysically as it does anything else.
Evolution may be theory but it is so highly supported by evidence that it isn't reasonable to dispute it. The evolutionary process however is incredibly complex and each of us can come to our own conclusions as to whether or not it is more reasonable to believe that it has an intelligent or non-intelligent root.
An atheist does not know there is no god just as I don't know there is. I do however believe that my Christian beliefs do represent ultimate reality without having certain knowledge that I am right.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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