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AZPaul3
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Message 41 of 175 (711829)
11-22-2013 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Phat
11-20-2013 9:25 AM


Re: As a believer.
Reading that kinda reminds me of David Koresh.
Edited by AZPaul3, : clearer?

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AZPaul3
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Message 43 of 175 (711835)
11-22-2013 5:42 PM
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11-22-2013 5:17 PM


Re: As a believer.
How long did you live with him?
51 days.
When the FBI agreed to his request for a radio address the Dallas stations carried his live rambling "I am the second coming," "I tell you truth but you do not hear," "I am the son of god and the son of man" soliloquy. I was driving from Ft. Worth back to my office in Dallas at the time and a late snowstorm had tied up traffic. Kept me entertained.

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Message 75 of 175 (713126)
12-09-2013 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Theodoric
12-09-2013 6:26 PM


Re: Grace as a necessity
Do you really think anyone understands anything from that string of words?
I might understand what he was getting at. Let me get out my Phat-to-English dictionary and give it a try
quote:
There are laws. Natural laws and spiritual laws. If you get too close to fire, you burn up. Thats a natural law.
Straight forward enough.
quote:
If you fail to meet product specifications, you get removed from the lineage. Thats a spiritual law.
As differentiated from natural law (physics) there are other "laws" (read consequences) for other actions in life.
A tenuous free-association like connection from this to "spiritual law" is made.
quote:
Grace is the gift of insurance (everlasting life) from having your policy canceled, as per law. (death)
As for the logical flow from one sentence to the next ... it's really loose and goes like this:
Your physical body is gonna die. But your spirit doesn't have to. Grace is the "don't be dead" card.
To get from one to the other is more free association brainstorming kinda stuff where the logic is quite loose. Like real loose. The analogy of "gift of insurance" for everlasting life and "policy cancelled" for death is not internally consistent but since both deal with "insurance" free association sans logic makes at least some connection even if it's nonsensical. But that's OK. He knows what he meant and that's good enough.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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