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New Cat's Eye
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Message 10 of 75 (707102)
09-23-2013 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
09-21-2013 10:35 AM


How important is this election and how much do EvC members know/care about it?
I haven't heard anything about it, except this thread, and I really just don't care at all.

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Message 32 of 75 (707325)
09-26-2013 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Dogmafood
09-25-2013 9:58 PM


Re: Twerking Merkel
Twerking Merkel
Ewww.

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Message 36 of 75 (707345)
09-26-2013 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Straggler
09-26-2013 11:46 AM


Do Americans think that economic policies pursued in europe have no real effect on the state of the US economy and thus their domestic situation? Is that the dosconnect?
I think so. I mean, our own presidential election doesn't even seem to affect my day-to-day life.
I don't even care enough to vote here, nor do I think my vote matters. So regarding elections in other countries, I don't care enough to even read about it.

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Message 39 of 75 (707393)
09-26-2013 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by frako
09-26-2013 6:29 PM


I usually give out an invalid ticket last time i made a big cross over the names and wrote under it Gotovi ste (you are finished) a slogan from protest group who wants to get rid of the same people that just switch positions at the table leaving the people with nothing but scraps.
I'm sorry frako, and I like you, but I think you're going to have to improve your grammar and punctuation for me to understand what you are saying.

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Message 45 of 75 (707430)
09-27-2013 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by caffeine
09-27-2013 4:15 AM


He said he spoils his ballot in protest at the political class.
Yeah, its a lot easier to make sense out of it this morning. I think I was just a little groggy last night.
For some reason, all I was seeing was:
quote:
I usually give out an invalid ticket last time. I made a big crossover the names...
It was hardly cryptic.
I wasn't trying to be a dick about it, I just couldn't quite get it:
quote:
I usually give out an invalid ticket. Last time, I made a big cross over the names and wrote under it Gotovi ste (you are finished). (Its) a slogan from (a) protest group who wants to get rid of the same people that just switch positions at the table, leaving the people with nothing but scraps.

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Message 46 of 75 (707431)
09-27-2013 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Straggler
09-27-2013 8:16 AM


It's more a case of effects at the macro-economic level. Inflation, unemployment, value of the dollar, exports, imports -That sort of thing.
Do people think these things have no effect on their lives? Do they think elections outside the US have no effect on these things?
For me, its not that they don't have an effect. Its that I have no idea how the different possible outcomes of the german election will impact all of those things. And I suspect most people don't, because its not something that is really that predictable.
Is the connection with people's daily lives just too abstract to garner people's attention?
Abstract and unpredictable. There's literally no reason for me to pay attention.

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Message 47 of 75 (707432)
09-27-2013 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by 1.61803
09-26-2013 5:20 PM


I live in a Red state. I vote blue.
I live in a blue state, so I don't bother voting red.
Screw em. I vote blue even though I know the electorial votes will counter my vote.
My "screw em" is just not bothering with going over there and casting.
My vote matters to me.
Mine doesn't matter to me.
I almost voted one time though... my cousin's roommate from back in college was running for lieutenant governor. He was such an asshole back then that I was going to go and vote just so I could vote against him (he was running for the red team by the way). Something came up and I just didn't do it, but he lost regardless.

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Message 49 of 75 (707434)
09-27-2013 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Straggler
09-27-2013 10:20 AM


I believe that even if I spent the time and effort to learn about the candidates' policies and how they could potentially affect those things, then I still wouldn't be able to accurately predict what would really end up happening.
It'd be like voting for a weather man:
David Spritz writes:
But I don't predict it. Nobody does, 'cause I... it's just wind. It's wind. It blows all over the place! What the fuck!

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Message 52 of 75 (707440)
09-27-2013 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Straggler
09-27-2013 11:10 AM


On that basis it's barely worth anyone investigating policies in any election or ever voting for anything.
I think local elections can have a direct impact on my day-to-day life and the outcomes of them can be predicted well enough to pay attention to and actually vote in.
Its when you start getting into broader ones where you start to loose the connection. And to go to elections in foreign countries just makes that much more of a disconnect.

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Message 60 of 75 (707449)
09-27-2013 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Straggler
09-27-2013 11:35 AM


Re: Oh Yeah?
I did go vote one time right after I turned 18 just because I had no idea what it involved.
It felt like a pointless waste of time.
I don't think that nobody should vote, though. It just doesn't matter to me personally.

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Message 65 of 75 (707455)
09-27-2013 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by onifre
09-27-2013 12:04 PM


Re: Oh Yeah?
Same here. Especially when I already live in a blue state and I usually support (reluctantly) the blue candidates.
Yeah, my vote literally does not matter.
I would however vote if there was a third and/or fouth party that could actually have a chance.
Me too, unfortunately they don't have a chance.
But since it's either blue or red, it doesn't really matter much to me. They both stink.
If I found a candidate that I really liked, I would go and vote for them.
Or if I found a candidate that I really hated, then I would go and vote against them.
But so far its all been "meh".

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