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Author Topic:   God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first
Perdition
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Message 75 of 95 (704682)
08-13-2013 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 12:35 PM


Aspects
Does sex have good and evil aspects?
If so then A & E could not know of it as they knew nothing of anything that had good and evil aspects.
Ignoring for a moment that we are definitely not in agreement with your premise that sex (the act) has evil aspects rather than the people who choose to have sex in evil ways, your premise about what A&E could know is flawed.
Just because they were not aware of good and evil, that doesn't mean they were unaware of things that could be used for good or evil. Not knowing the difference between good and evil just means that they couldn't tell when the sex they were having was good or evil. If they didn't know anything about anything with good and evil aspects, then, using your very broad definition of good and evil aspects, they wouldn't have known anything.
Breathing can have good and evil aspects...I guess they didn't know about breathing and would have suffocated. There, I just refuted genesis, too. This is pretty easy.

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Perdition
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Message 82 of 95 (704927)
08-20-2013 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Greatest I am
08-14-2013 7:32 PM


Re: Aspects
The tree of knowledge of good and evil is basically the tree of knowledge of everything because almost all things are subject to good and evil just as you have shown above with breathing
No, the Tree of Knowledge was granting the ability to determine or distinguish between the two. A baby doesn't know good from evil, or to put it another way, right from wrong, however, it can still do bad things.
Or perhaps you can look at it yet another way. Evil requires malice aforethought, if you do something bad and end up hurting people, but you didn't intend that to happen, nor did you think it would happen, you're not evil, just ignorant.
Basically, I was trying to follow your logic to its obviously absurd conclusion. The fact that you found the conclusion not only not obsurd, but actually persuasive means that I'm not sure we'll ever be able to explain to you why you're wrong.

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