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Coragyps
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Message 115 of 558 (678807)
11-10-2012 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by ICANT
11-10-2012 4:51 PM


Re: Raisin Muffin
Your ignorance does not diminish much with time, ICANT.

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Coragyps
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Message 127 of 558 (678928)
11-11-2012 4:25 PM
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11-11-2012 3:53 PM


Re: Whatever
So the Milky Way and Andromeda are moving through space like our space ships do when they go to the space station, is that what you are saying?
If so what is the mechanism for such movement?
The two galaxies are in orbit around each other, ICANT. The mechanism is something called gravity, which is involved in other orbiting things, like the Earth and its moon. As there are at least a few dozen galaxies, three of them of comparable size, in our Local Group, the orbits are more chaotic than the ones in our Solar System. This is why an eventual collision is in the works.
2,500,000 light years is pretty dang close on the scale of the observable universe. I personally have seen an object, 3C273, that's about a thousand times as far from us as the Andromeda galaxy is - and that with my 6-inch reflector. On that sort of scale, galaxies/clusters of galaxies are moving apart. On local scales, like a piddly 24,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 meters, gravity can dominate that overall expansion.

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 131 of 558 (678942)
11-11-2012 6:37 PM
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11-11-2012 4:59 PM


Re: Gravity!
They each formed from collisions of protogalaxies that had formed from clouds of gas. Likely all the whole mess were gravitationally linked to each other. I can't find a link at this moment, but I don't think Andromeda and the Milky Way have yet had time for more than a couple of do-si-dos around each other.

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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