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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
The real you is a person who makes things up to create an illusion that does not conform to the reality that is external to you.
You just said a bunch of nonsense and made appeals to authorities that do not support what you just said. Like you have in other posts. There are no 7 Freudian/Jungian archetypes. Your summation of Libido was ignorant. "Subliminal" does not support you. All in all, you are wasting your and everyone else's time pretending to be an intellectual. Why don't you take all this time you have to make poor graphics and to interject nonsense into the bible and actually educate yourself and BECOME a true intellectual rather than making shit up. You don't have to lie to make friends.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Yeah, this is more numerological bullshit.
You can't mix and match ego, id, and superego, which make up Freud's psychic apparatus, with Jungian archetypes, of which there are five: SelfShadow Anima Animus Persona Libido and Harmony are not archetypes. So, no, you do not appeal to the literature. You aren't deferringto references, you are picking random terms and saying they apply to your model that you created, but they don't. And there is no long tradition of referring to seven "evil spirits" in psychology. There is no short tradition. This is not relevant to psychology. You are a liar.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
I don't think your claim about 90% is researched. You are just stating that as it it were true.
We protect our young because they are the "ark" that houses our genetic relics and allow us, in one way or another, to live forever. We will give our lives for our children and close relatives as an act of self interest. We lay our lives down for strangers to set a priori for all humans to protect each other because it increases the likelihood of our own progeny to have success even if we we have to give up our own lives to attain it.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Yeah, I KNOW your 70% remark is bullshit.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
kofh2u writes: source? While quite amusing coming from someone with a blatent history of doctoring evidence, such a request is reasonable. Behavioral models are boil down to one thing, and it is an economic fundamental: That humans are rational When the benefit of an action outweighs the consequence, the determination is that one must act. http://business.xtu.edu.cn:8055/...txtnews20120409012033.pdf http://web.missouri.edu/~ikerdj/papers/Rethinking.html Doing Well By Doing Good; Agricultural Research: Feeding and Greening the WorldDerek E. Tribe Pluto Press ISBN 13: 9780949138729 http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/...cts/Spring02/Holt/enlightened.html Dawkins, R. (1989). The selfish gene. New York: Oxford University Press.Haldane, J. B. S. (1955). Population genetics. New Biology, 18, 34-51. Hamilton, W. D. (1964). The genetical evolution of social behavior: I. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 7, 1-16. Hamilton, W. D. (1964). The genetical evolution of social behavior: II. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 7, 17-52. Maynard Smith, J. (1995). The theory of evolution. New York: Cambridge University Press. That should be a good start, but there is also the realm of the reward system and how humans take pleasure in taking risks and a resulting incentive salience. Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
yes, your claim was lame.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
kofh2u writes:
90% is the figure the Marines round it off at in rough terms.I assume the sgt researched it. What seargent? You are lying. Don't lie about the marines you fucking twat.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined:
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The medal of honor has been awarded to 627 individuals posthumously, out of 3,476 awards received.
So let's do the math. 90% of 3476 = 3128 3128 individuals who fell on a grenade - 627 individuals who recieved a medal posthumously = 2501 heroes who jumped on a grenade and walked away. Does that seem reasonable? Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Your brother is a part of your fitness and is a vehicle for distributing your genes (most of them).
I'm not sure if altruism has agene, so much as it is a behavior, but from an evolutionary standpoint, it does benefit you to keep him alive, even if it means you die. By extension of shared fitness, you would actually be protecting yourself and your store of genetic material. Throwing yourself in front of a bullet for your brother is not selfless.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined:
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kofh2u writes: A nobody drill instructor.But he may have said posthumous awards. really? Give us a name. This "sergeant" is suddenly a nobody drill instructor, yet has the task of figuring out the percentage of medal of honor awards given out for falling on a grenade. Give us a name, if you can, you lying POS.
kofh2u writes: None of which matters in regard to the essence of this as an example of brothely love which shows that it is not solely maternal love that will get people to ignore their iown self interests in the name of saving others. No one said that altruism is limited to motherly love. Nice strawman.
kof2u writes:
It never ceaes to amaze me about losers who can not make intelligent and efective come backs. They assume there is a rule that says if they can find just one little itty bitty unrelated and insignificant statement from the other side of debate, they can call general Bull Shit. Dude, you have been caught in a blatent and obviously lie which was both related and significant, being that it was the heart of the purpose of your post.. The only appropriate response is to call bullshit.
kofh2u writes: It as stupid as if that discredits the other side's argument because, in their weird and self serving mind, they have conclusively shown in the little item that the other side is wrong about something. Your argument is dicredited simply because it was not true and because you purposely lied. You discredit your own claims simply by making them without knowledge of the subject or fact-checking. You are a pseudo-intellectual that tried to pull the wool over everybody's eyes with a fabricated statement. It was bullshit and you know it. Don't blame others for holding you accountable when you cry wolf. You've got nobody but yourself to call a loser and to think poorly about. Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes:
How does it benefit me individually? Because your brother survives, giving him the opportunity to spread his, and most of your genes around. His survival benefits you in the same way that having children benefits you. The furtherance of your type, culture, beliefs, values, character, ect. Immortality through the passing of genes.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
By traits, Mendel was focused on quantative attributes inherited by a single locus.
You don't know what you are talking about.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
You already asked for sources. I gave them. It is not my fault if you did not bother to open even one link.
Here they are again: http://business.xtu.edu.cn:8055/...txtnews20120409012033.pdf http://web.missouri.edu/~ikerdj/papers/Rethinking.html Doing Well By Doing Good; Agricultural Research: Feeding and Greening the WorldDerek E. Tribe Pluto Press ISBN 13: 9780949138729 http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/...cts/Spring02/Holt/enlightened.html Dawkins, R. (1989). The selfish gene. New York: Oxford University Press.Haldane, J. B. S. (1955). Population genetics. New Biology, 18, 34-51. Hamilton, W. D. (1964). The genetical evolution of social behavior: I. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 7, 1-16. Hamilton, W. D. (1964). The genetical evolution of social behavior: II. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 7, 17-52. Maynard Smith, J. (1995). The theory of evolution. New York: Cambridge University Press.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
These are not just personal points of view.
They are held by a large number of social behaviorists, biologists, and economists. You, yourself, have mentioned game theory, so you should already be aware of this. Since you aren't, I wonder why you would have mentioned Nash at all. You shouldn't pretend to have a perspective on subjects you are ignorant about. Edited by Eli, : No reason given.
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Eli Member (Idle past 3521 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
kofh2u writes: Then you concede. The instinct of Motherly Love clearly establishes the presence of a trait in women that is otally foreign to self serving acts under certain situations. Since you are dumb enough here to admit this is not limited to just women and mothers, it is then, clearly, a characteristic or trait found in men, in general. LOL Jump on that grenade,...
wtf are you talking about? What makes me dumb for admitting a position that I have always held? Did you not read my conversation about one brother dying for another? Do you not understand the basics of the conversation? Gender has little to do with altruism, with the exception of securing possible mates (holding the door for someone, paying for dinner, ect.)
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