Should intellectually honest fundamentalists live like the Amish?

Disclaimer -- I have come NO WHERE NEAR reading all the posts on this thread.I saw this and it jumped out at me. It sounds like you are imagining a scenario is static climate where gravel is laid down, then suddenly sand, or something else.What I would suggest is that you aren't picturing the changes that take place in the world.Imagine an area at the bottom of a body of water (let's use Great Salt Lake). I would assume that below GSL is a rather thick layer of a silt/salt mix.Thousands of years pass, maybe millions and, for whatever, reason the water that feeds GSL dries up. The lake itself then dries up leaving a barren wasteland, which hardens.Over a relatively short period of time plants which can survive in that nasty soil colonize the area. They grow and die. Their leaves deteriorate into soil and more plants grow. Over a thousand years a praire of hardy grasses builds up. This praire lasts for a million years.Then, another Ice Age descends, completely burying the praire. The ice, full of the gravel it's collected in it's journey south, eventually melts, leaving the stones behind.The run off from the melting ice creates a new lake, this time with Fresh water. Plants and animals thrive, and the stony bottom is covered in a black muck.etc.This scenario is not hard to believe at all, and from a geological perspective, the line between the salt clay and the grasses would be "knife like" since it likely took less than a hundred years to get started.Likewise, the line between the praire soil and the ice age gravel would be just as abrupt, as would the life between the gravel and the black muck of the fresh water sea.While this scenario examines a relatively small area, it would hold true on a larger scale. I doubt that most geological levels are completely consistant across their entire form.Also, I didn't bring up fast events, like volcanic ash or a landslide, both of which would be even more abrupt than my examples.I hope this helps explain the process

My bad, I should have read more of the string to figure out who you were.Since you are one of "those" people, I have to assume you don't have a basic understanding of reason, vocabulary or science. There's no point discussing issues with you. Clearly, you confuse the words "believe" and "know". You have hitched your wagon to a particular horse, and if it makes you happy, go on believing that.Just keep that particular fantasy away from the public school system.OR, alternatively, if you want Creation taught in school, accept that ALL creation myths should be taught in school (Maya, Babylonian, Egyption, etc. Since we KNOW that all these are truths and they have their own sets of Gods backing them.)I strongly urge the rest of the science minded people to abandon arguments with this poster as they are a waste of your valuable time.

No amount of fact or reason will resolve this. His beliefs are his BELIEFS. If someone believes that red is green, you can say all you want, you can point to paint cans and crayons, it's not going to change a thing.He doesn't want you to answer his questions. That's evident from the fact that when people explain something clearly, his response is a total denial and a claim that you are "talking down to him".The entire study of geology is on one side of this argument and an old book is on the other side.

And there we have it.You want an "educated" guess, Faith. But all you are giving us is make believe.Making an educated guess means looking at the data and extrapolating what it means.You're not doing that. You're making suggestions about the Flood that don't even stand on their own logically. (ie Fleeing animals left tracks in older layers before the new lays were set down.) Exactly which animals were running across the bottom of the ocean at the time?You keep saying it's all up to interpretation but if I take a helicopter back in time to the Dark Ages who's going to have a better interpretation of what the machine is?If you want to Believe in the Flood, or the toothfairy, or whatever, no one is going to stop you. It's your right to believe that. But don't try to hold that belief up to science. Don't try to cram that belief into the classroom.

Does your belief system still make sense if you take YEC out of it?If you believe that the Bible is literally true, then it follows that you believe YEC. If you don't believe YEC, then it follows that you don't believe that the Bible is literally true.Therefore, you do in fact "need" to believe that YEC is true to make you "faith work".