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Applying Ocam's Razor To BB vs Biblical ID Creationism and EvC

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ringo
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05-19-2012 4:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
05-19-2012 3:36 PM

Buzsaw writes:
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As is most commonly (I say, commonly) observed, physically, chaos does not spontaniously progress into order by natural means void of ID.
Is water common enough for you? Simple hydrogen and oxygen molecules spontaneously combine to form more complex water molecules - and the spark that touches it off is pretty much void of intelligence.
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Edited by ringo, : Spellinge.
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05-22-2012 12:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 24 by foreveryoung
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Any reaction that results in a reduction of free energy is by definition spontaneous.
Bingo. And that's why creationists' thermodynamic arguments against evolution and abiogenesis are nonsense. Spontaneous increases in structural complexity do happen.
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05-23-2012 12:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 57 by Buzsaw
05-23-2012 7:34 AM

Re: O.R. Supportive To. Biblical ID Creationism
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O.R. would say that if the Jews....
You seem to be trying to say that the simplest explanation for the survival of the Jewish people and the reestablishment of the Jewish state is that God did it.
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The problem with that "expanation" is that it relies on a Mystery. You can't simplify anything by adding an entity that is too complex for us to understand.
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God may be the right explanation but He isn't the simplest one.
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