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Phat
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Message 3 of 168 (379696)
01-25-2007 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by kuresu
01-25-2007 12:12 AM


Mentors, self worth, and emotional support
Its an interesting question, Kuresu. I deal with troubled youth (Those who often do not do the right thing, and find that many of them come from families that offered scant encouragement to them and where the father figures were often absent.
Having no Dad in and of itself does not mean that a kid will turn out wrong, however. I DO believe that there is a direct correlation between family love (not control) and healthy moral development.
  • Positive encouragement helps. I grew up with a caring family although they were far from perfect..(If that is even possible) and I additionally had at least two other mentors that helped my focus and my desire to please myself and do right simply because it was right.
    In short, I felt that I mattered in life and had enough confidence in myself that I did not give up.
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    Phat
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    Message 7 of 168 (379760)
    01-25-2007 12:33 PM
    Reply to: Message 5 by kuresu
    01-25-2007 11:20 AM


    Behaving with Humility
    kuresu writes:
    i wonder if we've left the stage where that reasoning plays out evidently in our minds? are we in the stage where we do things for more than just biological/evolutionary reasons? or perhaps we're in the middle ground--we think we're above, but we aren't as of now?
    I dunno, but I learned while studying European History that the absolutists...who were all for Papal infallibility, divine rights of authority figures speaking for God...all that crap...often were shown up by the humanists who brought us the Renaissance and the Enlightenment.
    When man tries to be God, man often finds himself worse off than ever. (And when man attempts to speak for God, the same thing happens.)
    God or no God, we were obviously never meant to Lord it over one another. Humans progress as a group or not at all.

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    Message 45 of 168 (380019)
    01-26-2007 4:53 AM
    Reply to: Message 44 by iceage
    01-26-2007 3:37 AM


    One Quick Question
    Hello, iceage! I have a quick question for you.
    iceage writes:
    The ability to feel the experience of others in your own consciousness is one of the great accomplishments of brain evolution.
    Can you speculate how far brain evolution will go? In other words, is evolution in a species ever complete? Is it ever finished?
    Am I still evolving? Will there ever be a time when I am finished evolving?

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    Message 79 of 168 (380467)
    01-27-2007 12:36 PM
    Reply to: Message 74 by Larni
    01-27-2007 6:40 AM


    Re: Right and wrong
    Larni writes:
    We seem (as humans) to dislike usurping the rights of others as a general default position. However, this position is very easily reversed when we enter an emotional state. If we have malfunctions in our perception of our emotions (by even a slight degree - that may not show up until very specific situations occur) or the emotional pressure of the situation increases to a critical level we will act in a very selfish way.
    Well that explains why we have not yet evolved beyond Wars.

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    Message 140 of 168 (381185)
    01-30-2007 6:49 AM
    Reply to: Message 139 by Larni
    01-30-2007 4:39 AM


    Re: Right and wrong
    I think she means that she needs God and He gives her a conscience. In context, an atheist may not believe in God, but God is still there giving them a conscience as well. Does that frame the issue?
    Kids don't always need Daddy watching to behave. They are capable of behaving when Daddy is invisible.

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