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Author Topic:   An Atheist By Any Other Name . . .
Perdition
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Message 23 of 209 (657595)
03-29-2012 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Heathen
03-29-2012 9:50 AM


Re: ...is still an Atheist
I guess the notion that "heathen" has been out of common use for a while, allows for easier re-definition. i.e. any connotations it may have/have had are not so fresh in the psyche.
This might just be me, but I have a much stronger averse reaction to the word heathen than I do to the word atheist. To me, a heathen incorporates visions of primitive people sacrificing virgins and dancing in the moonlight holding hearts over their heads.
Of course, I'm sort of contrary that way. I prefer to use the term atheist for myself just like I prefer to use the term liberal for myself. The opponents of both of these terms have done a great job of turning people against them. If I rebrand myself, I feel as if I'm letting "them" win and saying that my positions need to be tempered to fit into mixed company.
I'm a liberal atheist, and if you think that means I'm evil or something then that's your problem, not mine. (This is my thought for everyone, not specifically Heathen.)

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Perdition
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Message 99 of 209 (658268)
04-03-2012 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by shadow71
04-03-2012 3:26 PM


Re: hedging
I am not trying to convert atheists. I was just suprised at what I percieve to be the ambiguity of the atheists beliefs.
I wouldn't say atheists' beliefs are ambiguous, they're just tentative, as all beliefs should be if we are to be rational beings. We can never know everything, we're only human, so there is always the possibility that something we don't know can show us we're wrong.
Is that not the case for you? Is there anything that could possibly prove to you that god doesn't exist?

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Perdition
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Message 101 of 209 (658278)
04-03-2012 4:08 PM
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04-03-2012 3:57 PM


Re: hedging
Honestly. No.
Ok.
I can't wrap my head around that level of certainty, which may be why religion didn't "stick" with me. I can't think of anything that I believe so strongly that I cannot conceive of something that would change my mind.

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