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Brad McFall
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Message 109 of 126 (45343)
07-07-2003 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by MrHambre
07-07-2003 2:31 PM


It may not be as easy to think that "grant" money translates so simply based on knowedlge transmission in the case of biology as it historically was different than physics SINCE biotech has not established it self (as in physics,comptuer science, or engineering or even chemistry for that matter) and for me it is far from clear that some change whether provoked by religious influence or actually discovered anew is not needed before such knowledge is not a guess on yours or my part but a consensus regardless of who pays for the tuition.

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Brad McFall
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Message 115 of 126 (52389)
08-26-2003 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Peter
07-15-2003 7:21 AM


I actually support in this regard the more conservative ICR position than ID's GOD. I was not able to gain any more BIBICAL CREATIONIST motivation from trying to read what I did of ID technically than I could with dealing with say AD WHITE on Miracles and Morris' approach. I do not think Kantianism need be excluded at all. On NAIG some one recently suggested the correct approach to ID aka information gain or loss vs chance but there is no scientific creationist CHANGE of Biblical Creationist INFORMATION on any ID in my pinned tag of the thought and as I personally could no gain by using ID literature I for myself short of disscuing to this much with others have dropped this creation science for the science of conflicts with atomic mentality that seems to inhibit theory in evolution elite itself!

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 117 of 126 (52399)
08-26-2003 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Parasomnium
08-26-2003 7:10 PM


get real
Stop beating around the terebith book and accept me for who I really am. I am not GOD. your ears are closed to the truth and that is just what I said so you have no excuse. Perhaps your lens are too heavy.
I know how to use the following:
Biblical Creationism
Scientific Creationsim
Creation Science
and I did ON AIR, Live with CAll ins. Try being a fair producer no matter which camera the director TAKES and you will soon realize that this is language that will remain the the public square no matter that marxist ethics is MORE controversial and a worse offendor of lingo extrodinar. I HAD a Chrisitan upbringing thta allowed me a larger veiw of biology than was ALLLOWED at cornell. It had nothing to do with religon it had to do with Marxist PERCEPTION. Perception as your post noted is ONLY 1/2 of the reality. If you learn to READ creation literature as I was helped out by the book beyond the Day (see BookNook) you will find that such is not offensive to seculars only they have not actually been taught to READ it. One letter at atime my friend. Intelligent Design refers to GOD like it or not.

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5064 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 126 of 126 (52553)
08-27-2003 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Admin
08-27-2003 10:46 AM


Re: On Brad
Its all water over the duck or in this case the cats back. yeah, I dont mind but the accusation of health are misplaced and EVC is not the forum to discuss this faliure with the Cornell Faculty.
I have pretty much figured IT all out on my "sybatical" from EVC and other boards. It took a lot of time with trying to decide if I was going to teach you all how Gould intends to "grow" Mayrs grown underbelly in the light of the genic selectionism that is represented here but I have come to an understanding in my issue no matter how you prefer to slice it for the time being and it had to do with Gould's claim about "nonlinearity" support against Dawkins, Williams etc. I was able to recognize what drove the exitence of Simon Levin's applied math in biology once again as did while I was a student a determined a case of Dawkins grave or vechile which NEED NOT BE accounting but this would take more than one tissue to paste in the thought that actually is about THEORY in biology. I do not have the faintest idea if the details, which is here is more dominated by the molecular than my own preference for whole organisms, will design on what I have figured out, suffice it to say it makes calling me a mental case simply the aforesaid difference of reading and read READing but I leave that to the difference of opinion inter thread alia. And if you really must know what is inbetween my time at Cornell, the claims about my thought process, and the present is my knowing that I had no idea what a "statistical refinement" could even be thought of as. I will start to talk about MENDEL if you think that this has some relevance to this particular thread else one here will have to wait till I get bored on the other sites I post at as I had started back at other places first. EVC has however helped me to grow in my thinking being a more stable repository and for that indeed I am grateful. Percy and Mose I kNOW have steped back for me. And if this reentry here does nothing than affirm Percy's request sans the diagnosis I will move on with you all once again. Para as you read I would side with you before hambre or Crash but the difference makes not an iota issue for me. I still had not blinked. Best and later. bRAd

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