intelligent design, right and wrong

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if there is no intelligent design, there is no right or wrong. becuase, then, we are simply an accident on the face of a great universe, with no purpose whatsoever in life.

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Excuse me? Since when did humans need God to have a purpose? As an Agnostic, I feel that my life has plenty of purpose. This is probably my one shot at existence; I want to have a positive effect while I'm here.Purpose is decided by individuals and communities and is not dependent upon belief in the supernatural.

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then you start getting into questions like, well, if we have no purpose what difference does it make as far as what we do. with no purpose, killing people is the same as eating icecream.

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I have already explained that purpose has little to do with belief in the supernatural.Also, even if the universe is Intelligently Designed it doesn't mean that the Designer cares about what we do, or has any direct dealing in our everyday lives.

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if our society would take up that belief we would soon have a terrible state of anarchy on our hands.

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Let's see, several of the most long-standing conflicts and wars around the world have arisen out of disagreement over religious matters; the Middle East, Ireland, the Balkans. Let's not forget the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Holocaust.Seems that, historically, blind belief without reason produces anarchy quite often.

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so, i would say there has to be intelligent design, and right and wrong, because without it, this world would be a horrible place.

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I'll reiterate;The universe could be ID'ed, but this would not be evidence for a moral God which cares about us and what we do."Right and wrong" as concepts exist as a necessary construct for humans to live together in communities, and this is why what constitutes "right and wrong" are different communities and cultures all across the world.These constructs don't require religious or supernatural belief to be followed.That's why our prisons aren't filled up with Athiests, but are, in fact, filled up with believers.Now I have a question for you about the nature of Intelligent Design:How do we tell the difference between an Intelligently designed system and a natural one which we1) don't understand yet, or2) don't have the ability to understand?------------------
"Evolution is a 'theory', just like gravity. If you don't like it, go jump off a bridge."

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"I want to have a positive effect while I'm here."

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who decides if its positive or not?

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The community does.

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with no god, or higher power that leaves us to set our own standards.

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You are not paying attention to what I am writing.We set our own standards regardless of belief in a higher power.

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you can solve world hunger, and make the world a peaceful place, but with everyone setting there own standards, they can decide its the worst thing ever done.

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I don't quite understand what you are trying to get at here.How about replying to the rest of the points I made in my message?In addition, please answer the following;If God declared it to be good and moral to rape and kill and pilliage at will, would it therefore be moral to rape and pilliage and kill?

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with no god, or higher power that leaves us to set our own standards.

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What standards are God's standards, according to you?